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Old 06-11-2009, 11:07 AM
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It is a CDV. The height of the CDV's popularity was during the 1860's and 1870's although they were still used after that, the Cabinet photo became more popular.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:38 AM
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It's either a cabinet photo or a CdV, depending upon the size. Do you know its dimensions? It certainly looks like it could be circa 1875.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:41 AM
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Strange... this same CDV with the horizontal crease was sold on REA's June 1996 auction.

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Knew it looked vaguely familiar...good detective work.
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:42 PM
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The HOF identified this as Jim O'Rourke, but this individual does not look like Jim O'Rourke to me. I will post known photos of him later for comparison.

Is it possible that this photo is Tom O'Rourke who played on Boston in 1887 and 1888? Anyone have a close-up photo of Tom for comparison?

Jim had a brother John O'Rourke who played for Boston in 1879 and 1880. Both brothers played outfield together on the 1880 Boston team. I will post photos of John for comparison as well.

I think these three players were the only O'Rourkes to play for Boston during that time period.
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Old 06-11-2009, 02:02 PM
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Paul, do you know if the original photograph is in fact part of the HOF archive?

Identity debate aside, I'm really intrigued on how the same CDV ended up for public auction.

Was the CDV deaccessioned prior to 1996?
Was it acquired by the HOF or was it received as a donation after the auction?
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Old 06-11-2009, 02:16 PM
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orator1 says: "The reason I ask is that the HOF's identification of this photo doesn't look like that person to me."

You are right - that guy is not Jim O'Rourke - for sure.

Nor is he Tom O'Rourke:
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Old 06-11-2009, 02:20 PM
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Below is the email I received recently from the HOF.
Even though the HOF described this as a cdv I wanted confirmation of this from net54 experts, to help pin down the date.

"I came across this small carte-de-visite portrait of James O'Rourke photographed by Wood, 354 Grand Street, cor. Essex St. N.Y. Do you already have a copy of this?"

That's the only info I currently have on this cdv.

I will forward your questions to the HOF researcher and hopefully get some answers. I too was surprised to see the same cdv in the 1996 auction you posted.
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Old 06-11-2009, 02:36 PM
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John O'Rourke in 1879:
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I will forward your questions to the HOF researcher and hopefully get some answers. I too was surprised to see the same cdv in the 1996 auction you posted.
Paul, did you get a response from the HOF researcher?
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