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06-17-2009, 11:24 PM
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Okay, so let me ask this question of the new and reformed, wonderful Shelly. Of all the people you ripped off for thousands of dollars, from all the sincere people you stole from, who trusted you. how much effort did you make to return their money to them? As opposed to how much you kept. How much did you steal and how much did you return to the victims? Easy question and the first step to salvation.
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06-18-2009, 08:13 AM
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Do we really have to get to this level on this thread?
I have known Shelly for a long time. Ok, he made a mistake 10 years ago. He admits it. He confessed it and he was punished for it. Right now though, he is one of the most trusted people in the hobby for Tim Fitzsimmons, FBI agent in charge of Operation Bullpen. And yes, I have talked to Tim on a number of occasions. Shelly is also trusted by ebay and many members of this board. He has worked harder than anyone I know to try and inform collectors about forgeries and to help in the seemingly hopeless effort to try and expose forgers and forgeries. He has done things to fight the crooks constantly. He does not come here and brag about it, but he is constantly working to improve this mess of a hobby. Can any of the negative posters on this thread say the same thing about themselves. Shelly probably has done more in a week to help than the flamers have done in their lifetimes. There seems to be a bitterness here from 1 or 2 people that surpasses even the threads about politics (and I have been in the middle of those). I am sure I will get at least one response for this post, let us see if it can be done without juvenile name calling and low class language. If you have a grudge against anyone, posting in a low class manner only makes the poster look the fool. Last edited by RichardSimon; 06-18-2009 at 08:40 AM.
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06-18-2009, 11:30 AM
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A question has been asked about me paying back the people who bought autographs from me. The people who bought from me, as I have answered on other threads numerous times, have been paid back in full. Everyone that I knew that bought from me and wanted a refund was paid. Any person that contacted the FBI and showed proof of purchase was refunded in full. I did my best to make sure anyone that had any dealing with me was taken care of. I am proud of what I do now and for those that hate me, well you always will, no matter what I say or do. This will be the last time I will answere this question. It has been ten years and enough is enough.
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06-18-2009, 05:31 PM
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Wow, jackball...Leon, how about a suspension for name calling?...Jeffects, did I say it was you? Who knows it may be you. This clown (e-mailer) lives through an e-mail address and an e-mail address only and harrases me, that's all I know. Oh well, I ignore them. You are just another person who doesn't see the whole picture and can form an opinion without facing the person. The beauty of the Internet. Shelly has done a tremendous amount to pay back those who he harmed and has done a great deal of good. But nothing anyone says can sway you in the direction of logic, so why bother with you. Just take your cheap shots and name call. That's what you are good at.
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06-18-2009, 06:26 PM
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The sign of ignorance is insulting someone with a retort. I will give you my two cents here (looking forward to being attacked) but the people in the hobby that are educated know that Shelly Jaffe has done good by them and that's all that should matter. You never see educated, well respected people call another "jackball" and if you had read the O.J book, he did not admit to the crimes, nor did he do anytime, nor did he better himself in anyway once he was released, so what the hell was that exactly? Nobody takes people like you seriously on a board like this that is chock-full of educated individuals who know how to debate points and do so as adults.
Larry
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06-18-2009, 07:22 PM
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What is with you people? Larry, you are beyond ignorant. I'm sure most sane people can clearly see that. This "jackball" implied that we had some correspondence related to Morales. He implied that he knew me and that I lived in Pa. do you deny that? It's obvious, but grasp on whatever you want. He also implied that we had exchanged e-mails about Morales. That's an absolute lie. He implied that he knows me and I'm from PA. Another lie. Is this your friend, a liar? Good for you loser. This person is a liar and I look forward to all of you people with no scruples defending him.
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06-18-2009, 07:22 PM
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