Mastro/Legendary Article in Today's NY Daily News

[oldjudge]

Adam--Mastro Auctions didn't lend lots, they loaned money. I think you would lose that case in court.

So far, when discussing Mastro Auctions and Foreman, in my mind at least, there is only one who is clearly wrong--Foreman. Mastro may have done some horrible things, but nothing has been proven. I have more problems with what Legendary has done, based on what has been proven so far, than anything that Mastro Auctions has done.

[Peter_Spaeth]

This is why one must avoid not only conflicts but appearances of conflict.

Naturally, SGC says Dave cannot submit. Some will accept that reassurance, others will be skeptical and demand proof that won't be forthcoming because it is virtually impossible to prove a negative -- at least without access to records of all cards Dave purchased and all that he sold/consigned.

Dave may well have never submitted a card to SGC, directly, through his brother, or anyone else. But since he is the principal of the company, if he were inclined to do so, one imagines he could.

In my opinion, he should have avoided even the appearance of a conflict.

And I concur with those who say if these revelations had been made about Joe Orlando, the outrage on this board would be tenfold.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

This is why one must avoid not only conflicts but appearances of conflict.

Naturally, SGC says Dave cannot submit. Some will accept that reassurance, others will be skeptical and demand proof that won't be forthcoming because it is virtually impossible to prove a negative -- at least without access to records of all cards Dave purchased and all that he sold/consigned.

Dave may well have never submitted a card to SGC, directly, through his brother, or anyone else. But since he is the principal of the company, if he were inclined to do so, one imagines he could.

In my opinion, he should have avoided even the appearance of a conflict.

And I concur with those who say if these revelations had been made about Joe Orlando, the outrage on this board would be tenfold.

Someone who used to work at SGC just posted on another thread in this forum that the graders were extra hard on Dave's submissions.

Dan

[canjond]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Someone who used to work at SGC just posted on another thread in this forum that the graders were extra hard on Dave's submissions.

Dan

I thought SGC already responded to this thread and stated:

"I want to stress the fact that SGC employees and/or owners are not able to submit cards for grading."

So does that mean they can submit cards for grading?

[oldjudge]

"Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive".----Sir Walter Scott

[Peter_Spaeth]

Hey that's my favorite quote which I have posted many times lol.

How about this one, from Joe South.

Oh the games people play now
Every night and every day now
Never meaning what they say now
Never saying what they mean.

[Peter_Spaeth]

This is what Glyn posted, which does, at first blush, appear to be different from what Brian posted.

"For the record I think they treated Dave's material with more scrutiny then any other submitters, and he never got the benefit if they were between grades he got the lower, and if there were any questions the card was rejected. I have nothing but praise for the individuals at SGC, they are a fine company and even finer people."