Show us your "alleged" stolen nypl spaldings...."

[Leon]

That's a great looking cabinet. Sorry, I don't think I have any stolen items to help out with. Anyone else?

[prewarsports]

Without going over to the other thread, which is really long and boring even for a Lawyer, is there a link to the stolen items list from the NYPL?

I apologize if the info is already on here somewhere.

Rhys

[rhettyeakley]

No stolen material here either, but don't let having actual evidence of the item being stolen from the NYPL get in your way...let the accusations fly...

[baseballart]

If people have concerns about particular items, they should contact the NYPL directly. The person I contacted last year about an ebay item was:

Robert J. Vanni
Vice President, General Counsel and Secretary
The New York Public Library, Astor, Lenox and Tilden Foundations
Fifth Avenue and 42nd Street
New York, New York 10018-2788
tel. (212) 930-0744
fax (212) 391-2503
rvanni@nypl.org

As it turned out, he advised that the item had been deaccessioned by the NYPL. He indicated that if there were other items of concern, the NYPL was always grateful if such items could be brought to its attention.

I hope this assists, as I think such contact is first appropriate, rather than having a debate on a public forum without full consideration of the position of the NYPL on an item.

Max

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

No stolen material here either, but don't let having actual evidence of the item being stolen from the NYPL get in your way...let the accusations fly...

That has never stopped this board before why should it now? If this was about Mastro everyone would be throwing a pitch fork party with nooses at the ready....I applaud Freddie wholeheartedly for trying to better the hobby and I hope others will too.....The only reason you wouldn't applaud him is if you are the one who did something wrong. I have never seen any proof of any theft. If the NYPL says they are missing items then so be it. As to the above photo....I don't think you can tell anything from that back, except it has paper loss.

edited to add clarity

[Freddie Maguire]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

No stolen material here either, but don't let having actual evidence of the item being stolen from the NYPL get in your way...let the accusations fly...

Originally Posted by prewarsports

Without going over to the other thread, which is really long and boring even for a Lawyer, is there a link to the stolen items list from the NYPL?

I apologize if the info is already on here somewhere.

Rhys

I can understand the obvious trepidation by the members of this board. Accusations are ugly and lead to bickering which, on the internet, tends to its most juvenile form. That's why I started this thread. It's for posting items that match the New York Public Library's list of stolen goods.

There's no need to accuse anyone of anything here; I suppose that's what the other thread is for. Please just add to the catalog of missing items so that the community can show it is responsible and part of the recovery process. Without us, the effort is doomed.

I've attached the list for the NYPL's stolen items.

Here is one item that seems to match the list very well. In fact, it's marked as returned to the NYPL . It's listed as "O'Rourke and another, Bridgeport. Compliments to his dear friend Henry Chadwick , Jas H O'Rourke" It's sad but most likely that whole inscription may have been obliterated. I don't know, I never saw this one in person. It says the Library recovered it in Feb 07.





If you feel like you recognize something on the list, post it. If you are in error, I'm sure there will be plenty of people to say so. If you are correct, you've done your duty.

Let's not forget that not only is Harry Wright the father of professional baseball, he is also the father of baseball collecting. His collection was without equal before these sad thefts. We owe it to the hobby he helped to create to right the wrongs.

[19cbb]

Originally Posted by Freddie Maguire

I've attached the list for the NYPL's stolen items.

Freddie, I don't see the attachment

[Freddie Maguire]

Originally Posted by 19cbb

Freddie, I don't see the attachment

I'm sorry about that. You're right. The file is too big. It's a pdf. Does anyone have any suggestions?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Freddie Maguire

I'm sorry about that. You're right. The file is too big. It's a pdf. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Please send your pdf to me and I will figure something out. It can be sent to leonl@flash.net

thanks again for trying to help the hobby!!!

[19cbb]

Originally Posted by Freddie Maguire

I'm sorry about that. You're right. The file is too big. It's a pdf. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Freddie, try this: http://www.uploading.com/

[rhettyeakley]

"The only reason you wouldn't applaud him is if you are on the other side of the issue, imo."

C'mon Leon, you know me better than that, or at least I thought you would. I hope you aren't implying that I (or anyone else Freddy has called out like Corey, Barry, etc.) am on the side of thieves. I wholeheartedly agree that finding stolen material is for the good of the hobby.

That being said, I don't agree with the tactic of throwing items that are "allegedly" stolen or where there is NO PROOF of having come from the NYPL and possibly tainting an item that is fine is the way to go about this. If I was the owner of the Harry Wright Randall cabinet pictured above, and it didn't come from the Spalding collection, I would be really bothered by this type of thread. Seems like a bit of a witch hunt.

-Rhett