Thoughts re PSA8 T206 Honus Wagner Card

[WarHoundR69]

Sort of like SGC's fiasco with Mr. Mint & Keith Olberman.

[canjond]

Originally Posted by WarHoundR69

Sort of like SGC's fiasco with Mr. Mint & Keith Olberman.

I don't think the PSA losing a Magee and then claiming they never received it and SGC grading an altered card are the same thing. While I use both PSA and SGC, both companies have graded altered cards on mistake. I have not, however, heard of SGC losing a card and then claiming it was never submitted to them.

I think SGC's Doyle is more akin to PSA's Wagner.

[benjulmag]

Given all the credible questions raised about the PSA 8 Wagner and that it remains PSA's signature item, IMO the proper thing to do is to re-grade it according PSA's current standards. If if fact it does not exhibit such signs suggesting it was after-the-fact cut from a sheet (and then subsequently possibly trimmed), it can be re-slabbed with an appropriate numerical grade. If though it exhibits such characteristics that would cause PSA to grade as an "A" another currently submitted card with identical characteristics, then it should be given an "A". This approach makes moot what did or did not happen in the past and evaluates the card based on factual criteria.

Oh, and right, like I really think this is going to happen.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by benjulmag

Given all the credible questions raised about the PSA 8 Wagner and that it remains PSA's signature item, IMO the proper thing to do is to re-grade it according PSA's current standards. If if fact it does not exhibit such signs suggesting it was after-the-fact cut from a sheet (and then subsequently possibly trimmed), it can be re-slabbed with an appropriate numerical grade. If though it exhibits such characteristics that would cause PSA to grade as an "A" another currently submitted card with identical characteristics, then it should be given an "A". This approach makes moot what did or did not happen in the past and evaluates the card based on factual criteria.

Oh, and right, like I really think this is going to happen.

All PSA has to do is leave it in the 8 holder and put a (Handcut) qualifier on the flip. That satisfies everyone (including me, not that it matters)....and the value probably goes up again!!

[barrysloate]

Leon- that wouldn't satisfy everyone...the current owner might not like it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

8T?

[barrysloate]

Peter- is that short for "8 trimmed?"

[danmckee]

I believe SGC took care of the Mint/Olbermann fiasco. I had to sue your buddy Orlando and watch him stand there in court and state that he had no knowledge of them ever losing a card before when in fact, I ran an ad in SCD and SEVERAL people answered having lost cards and having spoken directly to Mr. Orlando. He also claimed no knowledge of the bogus M101-4 Ruth they graded when Adam crossed him on it, that was priceless!

Again, both companies make mistakes, it is how you handle the mistakes that separate these 2 companies by light years!!!!!

[danmckee]

How about the T205 Graham I had labelled as Cubs I bought off of ebay with no picture. The label read cubs and the card was Rustlers. ok I can understand the mistake, no sweat. I take it over to PSA and they kindly relabel it for me to rustlers. I said what about the fact that I paid for a 3X expensive variation??? They told me "sorry about your luck"