How rare is rare?

[uffda51]

I've owned this card for about 15 years. I've found no reason to get it graded

[uffda51]

FWIW, I think Barry's estimates are pretty accurate.

[yomass]

I think Barry might be a little low in his estimate for large Gypsy Queens and K-Bat team cards. The rare team cards may have 3-5 copies, but the less rare ones may have as many as 8-10 each. I imagine there are more than a few sets of those out there.

[barrysloate]

Richard- Boston and Philadelphia Athletics probably have 8-10 each, Philadelphia Phillies are a little tougher, but Detroit, Baltimore, and Pittsburgh are extremely tough. Pittsburgh is about 2 known, Baltimore maybe 3 known, and Detroit not much more than that.

So the total could be maybe 30 known.

And you may be right about the large Gypsy Queen, not sure of those.

[tbob]

E98 Old Puts have only one or two known copies of each player so I'd have to label them rare. The black and white E97s are pretty close as very few examples exist of each one. Not as rare as the Old Puts but I'd guess maybe 5or 6 of each known? Then you have the E94 overprints which are extremely tough to find.

[chaddurbin]

post factory OPs meant for some type of advertising or distribution should not be classified the same as other "rare" cards. e94s/e98s OPs are not the same as e97 b/ws or m131 newsboys. e101s with a niagara baking stamp, big yawn to me.

imo how we look at OPs 6-8 years ago is different than today.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

post factory OPs meant for some type of advertising or distribution should not be classified the same as other "rare" cards. e94s/e98s OPs are not the same as e97 b/ws or m131 newsboys. e101s with a niagara baking stamp, big yawn to me.

imo how we look at OPs 6-8 years ago is different than today.

I absolutely disagree with Quan on this one....I think Overprints, according to recent prices, have continued to be viable and rare. They have cooled off just like many other things though. Some idiots think they are easy to duplicate. I am still waiting to see all of these fake ones that got by people...........I love overprints.....

edited to answer the original question....(my guesses)

Four Base Hits (exclude Kelley for value purposes) 20-25 known...30k for a common in vg

Just So Chewing Tobacco 18-20 known..., 16k for a common in vg

Large Gypsy Queen- 20 - 30 known,... 10-12k for a common in vg

Kalamazoo Bat Team Cards 40-50 known,... 6k-8k for a common in vg

Kalamazoo Bat Team Cabinets ? 8-10 known,.......30k-40k in vg