July 2009 Pickup Thread

calvindog · #1 07-29-2009, 09:52 AM

zork1974 · #2 07-29-2009, 10:19 AM

1908 E91 American Caramel Set A Frank Chance

GrayGhost · #3 07-29-2009, 10:20 AM

Seeing this stuff and the memorabilia and other things is why I love this board so much. Thanks everyone.

barrysloate · #4 07-29-2009, 10:20 AM

Despite the E91 set's reputation for depicting generic images, look how both the T204 and the E91 Donlin look virtually identical.

calvindog · #5 07-29-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by barrysloate

Despite the E91 set's reputation for depicting generic images, look how both the T204 and the E91 Donlin look virtually identical.

I actually thought the same thing -- the E91 set has so many generic images that look nothing like the players, yet in this case Donlin looks pretty good. For a comparison to someone whose face (and hand) look nothing like him, here's Brown:

barrysloate · #6 07-29-2009, 11:05 AM

Jeff- some of the images are generic, others are pretty good likenesses of the player. It's a strange set in that respect.

brianp-beme · #7 07-29-2009, 12:05 PM

I've written an article about the E91 cards and came to the conclusion that most of the artwork of the E91A set and about half of the E91B appears to based (at least the facial portion) on photos that can be seen in other photo based issues of the era, including T204's. Jeff's post points out that this can be pretty obvious and strikingly similiar depiction, whereas the Brown, (if I remember correctly--don't have the article in front of me), is also an example of a card that utilized a photo of the player, but may have been less artistically sucessful in generating an accurate likeness.

Contacted Old Cardboard about my article...they were not too enthused--thought I would have to provide more images of the various photographic cards that were used to create them. I have the whole E91A set, and I did most of my research/comparision utilizing that great Classic Baseball Cards book issued in the mid 80's. In general E91's get no respect, but I believe they should be considered in a different light. Someday maybe I will just post the article here.

Brian

barrysloate · #8 07-29-2009, 12:24 PM

Brian- Old Cardboard really wasn't interested in it? That seems odd, as it sounds like a pretty good topic to me.

The N284 Buchners are likewise either generic or accurate. Identical poses are often used on different players, whereas some players can be identified without even looking at the name on the bottom.

brianp-beme · #9 07-29-2009, 02:41 PM

In all fairness to Lyman, about a year ago we talked over the phone about the article and it was his opinion that the images of the comparision cards needed to accompany the article. I was able to provide scans of all the E91A cards, but only own maybe one or two of the comparision cards (the sets in the book I utilized were T204, Fan Craze, PC Rose, and M116's--all sets I don't really collect). I think he would be more interested in the article if I had those images scanned, but what the hey, I don't. Also Lyman read the article and perhaps was just letting me down easy (otherwise known as my writing and research was lacking, or sucked wind). Perhaps when I have the time I could post here, and people could do their own research.

Brian

deadballera · #10 07-29-2009, 10:36 AM

some T-210's...