Whats the story on grading when there is paper loss?

[Matt]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

From what I have read in the past PSA is much tougher on paper loss then SGC.

I believe the opposite to be true.

[cobblove]

But what about the card that I listed from SCPs auction. I brought this up because it graded a 2 and it has more than a small amount of paper loss on the back.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by cobblove

But what about the card that I listed from SCPs auction. I brought this up because it graded a 2 and it has more than a small amount of paper loss on the back.

No way SGC gives that card a 30/2.

[canjond]

I've seen SGC grade a nice card with paperloss a 40.

[Mrc32]

This is one of those things that drives me NUTS about grading.

See below:

a PSA 4



and an SGC 3 (back is centered and clean- no creases)

[barrysloate]

Michael- I believe in the case of the T205 Needham they simply missed the paper loss. I don't think that is an acceptable amount of loss for a VG-EX, but instead just sloppy grading. If the back were clean then it would accurately be a PSA 4.

[Mrc32]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Michael- I believe in the case of the T205 Needham they simply missed the paper loss. I don't think that is an acceptable amount of loss for a VG-EX, but instead just sloppy grading. If the back were clean then it would accurately be a PSA 4.

I guess.

I bought it on eBay with just a front scan and was pissed when it arrived.

But for those in this thread that says PSA is tough on paper loss......they weren't on this card.

[iggyman]

Not to bash SGC, since they are an exemplary grading company (of course, that was before the Mastro fiasco), but.................this one is not mine anymore; here is an example of a graded SGC card, receiving a Vg/Ex grade with a tiny bit of paper loss on the back (towards the bottom).






This one is not mine anymore as well, it resides in a SGC 70 holder (a tiny bit of paper loss on the back towards the top and middle).





For the record I prefer SGC, and as Barry mentioned, mistakes happen and in my book PSA has more then its fair share of misgraded cards.

Now, to get back to the original thread, if you send your Cobb card to get graded 100 times. In my opinion, the card will come back as a "ONE" 99 out of 100 times.

Lovely Day...

[Kehfee]

Needham is overgraded in the above case. PSA is wildly inconsistent when it comes to paper loss.