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Old 08-07-2009, 05:13 PM
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Hi Adam,

Throwing out the two arms, there are 27 scrappers featured on the other 19 cards.

I know it's not 27 distinct scrappers, but it's 27 different poses.
It's not just that simple?

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Old 08-07-2009, 07:09 PM
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Throwing out the two arms, there are 27 scrappers featured on the other 19 cards. I know it's not 27 distinct scrappers, but it's 27 different poses.
It's not just that simple?
Rob,
That's my view as well. Nineteen scrappers/boxers are delineated on the checklist back, which also states that there are "eight others." The 8 others are:
2 more Johnsons
1 more Burns
1 more Nelson
1 more Sullivan
1 O'Brien's fighting partner (unnamed)
1 other unnamed fighter on the Rawlins card
1 other unnamed fighter on the Sharkey card
= 27

In other words, you count all the bodies. Plus, the two anonymous fighters, although unidentified, are "scrappers" nonetheless! Finally, the arms/fists are simply body parts, rather than bodies ... As such, they are not scrappers!
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Throwing out the two arms ...
No pun intended, of course ...
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So you just ignore two cards in the set? That doesn't seem to be right.
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So you just ignore two cards in the set? That doesn't seem to be right.
Adam,
Point well taken. Here's my answer. The set is called 27 Scrappers (not "21 Cards"); as such, we know they counted something other than cards. Since they are counting scrappers, I think it makes more sense to count unnamed boxers who appear on the cards and ignore cards which simply picture an arm. How does it make sense to count an arm/fist as a scrapper rather than an unnamed fighter pictured "scrapping" with a named fighter? A scrapper without a name is a scrapper nonetheless!

Also, since the checklist back has been a riddle for a century, perhaps Phila Caramel made the nebulous checklist to confuse kids who collected all 21 cards, thus forcing them to buy more caramels in search of the "eight other" scrappers, who a kid would assume to be real boxers not named on the checklist????
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A corporation mislead customers to spur profits? Say it ain't so!
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A corporation mislead customers to spur profits? Say it ain't so!
Luckily, the past 100 years have cured such opportunistic corporate behavior.

BTW, would my body-counting theory hold on the E80
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