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Old 08-12-2009, 06:08 PM
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Hello I am the fellow that has been called out on this thread and I will attempt to tell my side of the story without turning this thread into a flame fest.

I spoke on the phone with Andrew regarding some T205's and he gave me a list of ones he wanted and told me to give my best price.

The price I gave him was not T205.org if you look at my bst thread my "guideline" price is actually T205.org. I keep records of every T205 I've bought and what I paid and I used that as my asking price. (I'm not losing or making money)

Andrew did not agree with the price. He uses VCP which is fine and came up with a different price using that. I opted to not sell at that price as I didn't want to take that loss. I have no qualms with his value assessment of mine or his cards.

He decided to get less cards and chose the ones he wanted and offered me a price. Which I agreed to and he paid me on Aug 10th.

I hoped to ship them that day but ended up shipping them Aug 11th. Andrew asked for and received the tracking number.

Now I'm Canadian. I live in Western Canada which is a long way from from many of the east coast and southern collectors. Canada Post is rather lackadaisical regarding their shipping. I sent it Priority Express which cost me 18.62 and they told me 9 days.

I let Andrew know that and got a short reply that gave me a sinking feeling and reminded me of a terrible transaction I had on the N54 hockey board (which was completed). Now that past transaction is not Andrew's fault or concern, but there were plenty similarities.

Customs can be awful and can hold up packages with little to no reason for long periods of time. Based on my interactions regarding this sale I made the call that it wasn't worth doing anymore. I refunded his money and accept the fallout I will receive because of it. I will say that I did not cancel this transaction because I received a better offer from anyone or any other reason then I have stated. The reason I was able to get the package back was that I went to the post depot and they hadn't picked up the package. I am well known amongst the staff and they returned the package to me.

I will happily tell my complete side of the story to the moderators (The stuff that doesn't concern the community) If my actions warrant a ban or removal of BST privileges then I will accept that.

To those that purchased cards from me. They have been delivered and I will endeavour to do my best to insure they are a pleasant transaction. I have not had one of my packages fail to arrive. (Though sometimes they're slooow) and I will refund anyone who doesn't receive something from me. I'm not out to rip any one off or "pull one over" on the N54 community. I apologize to Andrew and understand his anger over this. However, I will stand by my refund.

Jason
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Old 08-12-2009, 06:42 PM
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Old 08-12-2009, 06:49 PM
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Good thing the Postal Moose was late

I am good with Jason's answer. Let's all move on- nothing to see here.
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:09 PM
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Jason,

If you don't mind me asking, what concerned you about the transaction that caused you to cancel the deal? You stated you had already been paid, decided to ship the cards, then changed your mind and were able to retrieve them.

Were you concerned that the buyer might pull something shady? It seems that there's more information that was probably involved with e-mail communications that we're not privy to that caused you to change your mind.

I don't know the buyer or the seller, but I have to admit that I'd probably be upset if this had happened to me, just not to the degree that I'd lose any sleep over it.

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Old 08-12-2009, 06:54 PM
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Hello I am the fellow that has been called out on this thread and I will attempt to tell my side of the story without turning this thread into a flame fest.

I spoke on the phone with Andrew regarding some T205's and he gave me a list of ones he wanted and told me to give my best price.

The price I gave him was not T205.org if you look at my bst thread my "guideline" price is actually T205.org. I keep records of every T205 I've bought and what I paid and I used that as my asking price. (I'm not losing or making money)

Andrew did not agree with the price. He uses VCP which is fine and came up with a different price using that. I opted to not sell at that price as I didn't want to take that loss. I have no qualms with his value assessment of mine or his cards.

He decided to get less cards and chose the ones he wanted and offered me a price. Which I agreed to and he paid me on Aug 10th.

I hoped to ship them that day but ended up shipping them Aug 11th. Andrew asked for and received the tracking number.

Now I'm Canadian. I live in Western Canada which is a long way from from many of the east coast and southern collectors. Canada Post is rather lackadaisical regarding their shipping. I sent it Priority Express which cost me 18.62 and they told me 9 days.

I let Andrew know that and got a short reply that gave me a sinking feeling and reminded me of a terrible transaction I had on the N54 hockey board (which was completed). Now that past transaction is not Andrew's fault or concern, but there were plenty similarities.

Customs can be awful and can hold up packages with little to no reason for long periods of time. Based on my interactions regarding this sale I made the call that it wasn't worth doing anymore. I refunded his money and accept the fallout I will receive because of it. I will say that I did not cancel this transaction because I received a better offer from anyone or any other reason then I have stated. The reason I was able to get the package back was that I went to the post depot and they hadn't picked up the package. I am well known amongst the staff and they returned the package to me.

I will happily tell my complete side of the story to the moderators (The stuff that doesn't concern the community) If my actions warrant a ban or removal of BST privileges then I will accept that.

To those that purchased cards from me. They have been delivered and I will endeavour to do my best to insure they are a pleasant transaction. I have not had one of my packages fail to arrive. (Though sometimes they're slooow) and I will refund anyone who doesn't receive something from me. I'm not out to rip any one off or "pull one over" on the N54 community. I apologize to Andrew and understand his anger over this. However, I will stand by my refund.

Jason

Here is the email I sent back to him

do you have tracking for the cards???? Just wondering and seeing if you
>>>>> mailed yet
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew

HIS RESPONSE

Hello. Yes I mailed it. The post office said 9-10 days approx.
>>>>
>>>> canadapost.ca
>>>>
>>>> CX256789182CA
>>>>
>>>> Thanks

MY response

>>> I thought you said on our phone conversation that you were going to
>>> express
>>> mail them. I was not expecting them to take 9-10 days and sent the
>>> cheapest.
>>>
>>> Andrew


HIM

I paid 18.50 to send them. It's an international shipment so customs
>> gets involved. That sort of stuff is out of my hands. My apologies.

and ME again

That is fine, I just wanted more clarification on it.
> Thanks,
> Andrew

Then I got the big write up and piss off letter. I have no problem calling you out on this. I just wanted to know where my cards were and when to expect them. I am not the other guy JASON!!!! So why do I get the fist when it is not my issue???????? Oh yeah who got the cards then??????
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:00 PM
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:05 PM
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:07 PM
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ouch!
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:08 PM
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In Jason's defense, I bought some cards from him a few months ago and he told me up front that due to Canadian mail, his remote location, and Canadian customs that it could take eight-ten days from the mailing date before I would receive the cards. I appreciated his honest caveat, and true to form, ten days after he mailed them, they arrived. IMHO he is a collector who stands by his word, and I don't think he is trying to mislead any of us.

Mike
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:15 PM
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MY response

>>> I thought you said on our phone conversation that you were going to
>>> express
>>> mail them. I was not expecting them to take 9-10 days and sent the
>>> cheapest.
>>>
>>> Andrew"

Sometimes you just get a feeling that this isn't really worth the trouble.
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:18 PM
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I agree with Steve.
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:36 PM
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I will just state that i sold Andrew some T-205's one of which was Eddie Phelps and he paid top dollar for that card and a few others. He does not strike me to be a low ball try and steal cards for nothing type of a guy.

No disrepect to Jason but never for any reason would i strike a deal and then back out because of shipping. Something is a little off there in my opinion and comparing this T205 deal to a prior hockey deal is at best a weak excuse. If mistakes have been made in the past then it is probably wise to figure out how not to have it happen again.
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:51 PM
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"I am calling you out" just sounds so childish.
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:59 PM
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What this is beginning to look like.
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:03 PM
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My guess Andrew is a younger member than alot of us so perhaps the way he went about handling this was a little immature but one thing is for certain if the individual would have held up his end of the bargain all of this would have been avoided.

Also i might add with the overwhelming amount of sappiness on this board it is refreshing to see someone actually stand up for themselves in a deal gone bad. In no way shape or form should the guy have ever pulled out of the deal once the money was sent. Bad move.

As a matter of fact what he should do is now ship the cards overnight to Andrew and reconcile the deal. My guess is he already has sold the cards to another individual.

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