** BST Warning - Brandon Brown **

[botn]

Peter,

Are you certain? I thought a great guy can be anyone who sells (not limited to auction house execs) as well as people who have owned two Wagners? Maybe Jeff L can pipe in on this and clarify it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Fair enough, owning two Wagners makes you a good guy, and lying about it makes you a great guy.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by botn

Peter,

Are you certain? I thought a great guy can be anyone who sells (not limited to auction house execs) as well as people who have owned two Wagners? Maybe Jeff L can pipe in on this and clarify it.

You can become a 'great' guy not just by lying on the board or committing massive fraud. You can also become a 'great' guy by describing other crooks as 'great' guys. Or even just because you love Mickey Cochrane uniforms so much (even if they're not really his uniforms). Or sometimes you can be a 'great' guy just for any combination of the factors I just described.

[Browncow75]

Hey Guys,
To those I have let down on deals - I sincerely appologise for lack of communication or completion on my end. No excuses...I screwed up, and as far as the BST "ban" I completely understand, and to an extent, agree with it. To the moderaters - Thanks for the previous opportunities on the BST. I know you have a tough job protecting the best interests of the members who depend on the BST as a primary outlet for their vintage collecting needs. No hard feelings on my end. To those of you who I have had (multiple) successful transactions with - thank you and I hope you continue to have luck in your collecting "careers". All in all, it has been a very interesting and rewarding experience as a member of the board. That said, there are very few points of interest outside the BST for me, so I will be a rare visitor to other portions of the site that I still have access to. Nothing personal towards anyone, just not that much that pertains to my collecting interests happens enough on the main board. As Ive noticed quite a bit, Alot of "political" bickering and not enough vintage card discussion for my taste. Well, thats the news, and I....am....outta here!

Brandon B

[chris6net]

I feel for both sides but in the end Leon and his group have made the right decision. Brandon is probably a great guy but the BST board does need any complaints as we are a small community. Maybe after a few months the ban might be lifted but if I was posting on the BST I would hope for no problems. Thanks Leon and crew for all your work. CN

[cyseymour]

Considering that he never stole anything, the ban seems a bit draconian. Maybe a one-year suspension or something like that would be more reasonable. Also, I don't see why he should be called out in this manner since he never stole anything - it's not like people needed to know this information in order to protect themselves.

[Reginald Marsh]

I love the word "draconian"

[zork1974]

At least Brandon apologized and thanked everyone for their business. However, I'll pose this question. How many people are using this board as a sales tool only? To use the BST and state that "there are very few points of interest outside the BST for me" makes me wonder...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by cyseymour

Considering that he never stole anything, the ban seems a bit draconian. Maybe a one-year suspension or something like that would be more reasonable. Also, I don't see why he should be called out in this manner since he never stole anything - it's not like people needed to know this information in order to protect themselves.

First of all thanks to Brandon for being a man about this. This says a hell of a lot to me (and it's all good). He's not a bad guy but just gets in over his head on transactions. He knows it. It's not like there aren't a thousand more card addicts (definitely me included) on this site BUT we usually don't make deals we can't follow through with OR take way too long. Brandon did have a few month ban previously, before this one, and I am all for giving him another chance in the future.....say 6 mos. to a year. He has never committed fraud or stolen anything so there is/was no serious harm ever done. I would think of this more as a cooling off period....We (the moderators) will continue to what we feel is in the best interest of our community. I think everyone knows all of the moderators (4 of us) so know that it's not like any of us are going to be a push over or do something we don't feel is right, regardless of the other mods on the team. If this had gone to our vote and one of us had a huge issue then I am sure we would have thought it through some more. In the end it was the right decision and Brandon is welcome on the main board...and in time probably back on the BST..Our community also has a way of self policing itself. Had we made a huge mistake I am sure it would have been made known. best regards

ps...as far as using the board as a sales tool only, there is no rule against that, as long as everyone plays nicely. I have to get involved (I don't like to) in approx. less than 5 transactions per yr, so I would say that is pretty good.