Removing ink from baseballs

Reginald Marsh · #1 08-19-2009, 09:29 AM

J Birkholm "Quote"-Just to clarify, Dick--will you only be removing fraudulent signatures from baseballs, or will you remove anything the customer requests (such as removing a Milt Pappas signature off the side panel of a ball that also has a blazing Nellie Fox autograph)?

I almost fell off my chair laughing, since when has Nellie Fox's auto become blazing.

There really is nothing wrong with removing autographs from a ball if a person does want them there. If someone has a problem that the auto's were removed then do not buy or bid on the ball.

If someone went up and signed their name on the "Mona Lisa" ahhhhhhhh.....i think it would be removed and no one would say oh welll it is devalued now because the signature was removed.

I say great work Dick and forge on, just put on your hip boots to wade through the sappy spew from these guys.

slidekellyslide · #2 08-19-2009, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reginald Marsh

There really is nothing wrong with removing autographs from a ball if a person does want them there. If someone has a problem that the auto's were removed then do not buy or bid on the ball.

The problem Reginald is that single signed balls of certain players are always going to sell for more money than multi-signed balls....and not all sellers are going to disclose removal of signatures. All this service will do is further muddy the already murky waters.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #3 08-19-2009, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reginald Marsh

just put on your hip boots to wade through the sappy spew from these guys.

And what sort of equipment do you suggest one should wear in order to effectively traverse through a sea of ignorance?

barrysloate · #4 08-19-2009, 10:22 AM

This thread has established that there are some good uses for Dick's product, but also many bad ones that unscrupulous sellers will take advantage of. Why are some of the posters here only seeing what they want to see, and not looking at the whole picture?

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #5 08-19-2009, 10:39 AM

Barry,

I am consdiering this topic from a panoramic perspective and hope that this is understood. The problem is that the current good (I use that word loosely) is far outweiged by the future bad. I've been as clear as possible in my opinions and can't think of anything more that can be added at this time.

For anyone who doesn't realize it, my viewpoints are not to be misconstrued as a personal attack on Dick, who I do not know personally. I just do not encourage such processes.

barrysloate · #6 08-19-2009, 10:57 AM

Jodi- I was defending your point of view, maybe I wasn't as clear as I should have been.

Nobody is disputing the better uses of the product. If you want to clean a stain, or if you prefer to remove an unimportant signature for display purposes, I agree that's fine. But the bigger issue is there are people out there who will alter some balls to make them more valuable, and that is the bigger concern to most who have posted here.

I was referring to those who only see the benefits of the product, and don't want to admit there are some negative things too. There are enough ways collectors are being ripped off in this hobby, and we don't need yet one more.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #7 08-19-2009, 11:04 AM

Barry,

I figured as much, so thanks.

J.McMurry · #8 08-19-2009, 06:20 PM

I fall on the Jodi "with an i" side, but I also know that no one is going to shut down a legal money making venture because some people deem it harmful, so everyone might as well add this to the list of things to look out for in collecting autograph baseballs.

JamesGallo · #9 08-19-2009, 06:28 PM

I can see the damage this can do, but as it has been said restoration has happened in many other fields why not sports stuff.

I do agree it could be bad down the road but if Dick isn't doing it, someone else will.

That being said I have a Mays/Mantle/Snider ball and one of the signatures was traced over. IMO this becomes worthless, but Dick could fix that and at least make it a "real' piece.

It's tough because there are moral issues as well as dollar issues to deal with. I think if I paid a ton of cash for a Mantle/Maris ball to find out the Maris was bad then I would try to cut my losses, however if I was going to buy a ball like that I would learn enough to not buy one with a bad auto.

Tough spot I think because no matter what you do a ball can be untracable and therefore could be resold down the line as something that isn't altered, when in fact it was.

James G

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