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08-25-2009, 06:48 AM
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It's certainly understandable for them to circle the wagons but kicking one guy off their boards will not make the problem go away nor prevent others from learning about it. Why not take the high road by announcing steps to prevent this sort of thing from happening again?
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08-25-2009, 08:27 AM
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Because they already have graded millions of cards, and an admission would created unmanageable fear, uncertainty and doubt.
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08-25-2009, 08:52 AM
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Sounds like we need a special prosecutor on this one. Or perhaps a Slab Czar.
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08-25-2009, 09:22 AM
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 .I think he would make an outstanding special prosecutor.
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08-25-2009, 06:18 PM
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08-25-2009, 08:29 PM
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Like the man said....contact Joe O. and show him the evidence!
from the CU boards way back when... scottsusor Posts: 1452 Joined: Dec 2003 Wednesday April 21, 2004 5:30 PM Since it appears that an awful lot of submissions (including mine) are having similar problems with undergrading of vintage (1950's and 1960's cards), I sent off an email to Joe Orlando yesterday, expressing my concern about what looks like either toughened standards or graders getting lazy. As he always does, Joe responded quickly and attentively. He restated what he said to me in Chicago -- that PSA has not consciously toughened any standards of grading in recent months. Unfortunately, that leaves open the other possibility -- that the graders are taking the easy (or speedy) way out by slapping a too-low grade on most cards then moving on to the next card. It may not be laziness -- it may be pressure to get through way too many cards in way too little time. Anyway, Joe told me to send in some of the undergraded cards directly to him for review. I will be doing that shortly. I would advise anybody else that's getting hammered on grades to contact Joe and express your disappointment with what's been going on recently. The only way things like this will get worked out is for as many submitters as are affected to voice their perspective to Joe Orlando and then show him the evidence. He is very aware that undergrading hurts everybody -- PSA with reduced submissions, dealers who can't make a profit on their graded cards, and collectors looking to buy PSA cards that should be 8's and 9's. But just grousing about it here on the board does little good. You have to contact Joe and then show him the evidence. Joe Orlando's email address is: JOrlando@collectors.com Scott Last edited by Basilone; 08-26-2009 at 05:57 AM.
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08-25-2009, 08:42 PM
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Perhaps after that SS took matters into his own hands?
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08-25-2009, 12:22 PM
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An attempt to suppress or silence those who point out flaws in PSA's system is the typical response from the company. PSA has been permitted to cover up stuff like this rather than fix it.
Corruption and deception exist at all levels in this hobby.
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08-25-2009, 01:28 PM
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Speaking of old threads...
......here's a dandy.
http://forums.collectors.com/message...hreadid=575079 Need I say this who this dealer was?
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08-25-2009, 01:46 PM
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So when are you getting sued by Susor? I'm guessing sometime around the 4th of Never.
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08-25-2009, 02:45 PM
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....or when hell freezes over
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At this point I'd love to have him file suit against me and take that stand under oath claiming he's been an innocent victim and then get cross examined by a renowned attorney like you. That would be pay-per-view kind of stuff. Heck, I'd even pickup the filing fees and even pay for a limousine to take him to the courthouse. Last edited by WhenItWasAHobby; 08-25-2009 at 02:46 PM.
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