T206 PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 survey......UPDATED

[tedzan]

Reprising the "Lonely 12" subjects that have been confirmed with the Piedmont 460/42 back. Please check
the 36-card list posted here and see if you have any of them with this rare PIEDMONT back.

Bergen (catching)
Chase (Trophy)
Devore
Kleinow (Boston)
Latham
Merkle (throwing)
Murray (portrait)
Overall (blue sky)
Schaefer (Washington)
Seymour (portrait)
Smith (Boston & Chicago)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)

I refer to these 12 cards as the "lonely 12" because after years of tracking P460/42 backs, It looks like there
was a very limited printing of the P460/42 backs with respect to the 460-only series.


Here's the list of the remaining 36 cards in the 460-only series that have NOT been confirmed......

Abbaticchio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (follow thru)
Bescher (hands in air)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms folded)
Camnitz (hands at side)
Chance (batting)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Doyle (portrait)
Duffy
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands at waist)
Hummell
Lake (St Louis-ball)
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove)
Meyers
Needham
Oldring (batting)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (batting)
Schulte (back view)
Sheckard (glove)
Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (batting)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wheat


Thanks for taking the time to check-out your T206's.

TED Z

[tedzan]

This survey is in its 7th week and 2 more new inputs (Red Cobb and CYoung) have been reported
by Net54 readers......



PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42 survey......Updated 9/17/09


Cobb (red portrait).....15

Cobb (bat).................5

Johnson (pitch)...........4

Lajoie (bat)................7

Matty (dark cap).........7

CYoung (glove)...........7


I know this is a very tough T206 back....but, if we can get as many as 15 inputs of the Red Cobb
portrait with the PIEDMONT 460/42 back....then I am sure we can get some more inputs on these
5 additional stars.

Very interesting......so far, these results are confirming what we had expected to see......
that the Red Cobb with the Piedmont 460/42 back is a DOUBLE-PRINT.

We will continue this survey a little longer to see if this is indeed so ?

HELP ANYONE.....we are also still looking for a Tinker (bat off shoulder) with a P460/42 back


TED Z

[tedzan]

I am reprising the "Lonely 12" subjects (460-only series cards) that have been confirmed with the PIEDMONT 460/42 back.
After several years of looking, a new PIEDMONT 460/42 card was found this weekend at the Philly show....Schlei (portrait).
This subject is from the 460-only series

Updated list of 460-only PIEDMONT 460/42 cards......

Chase (Trophy)
Devore
Kleinow (Boston)
Latham
Merkle (throwing)
Murray (portrait)
Overall (blue sky)
Schaefer (Washington)
Schlei (portrait)
Seymour (portrait)
Smith (Boston & Chicago)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)

I refer to these 12 cards as the "Lonely 12", because after years of tracking P460/42 backs, it appears as there was very
limited printing of the PIEDMONT 460/42 backs with respect to the 460-only series.


Here's the list of the remaining 36 cards in the 460-only series that have NOT yet been confirmed......

Abbaticchio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (follow thru)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (hands in air)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (arms folded)
Camnitz (hands at side)
Chance (batting)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Doyle (portrait)
Duffy
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hands at waist)
Hummell
Lake (St Louis-ball)
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove)
Meyers
Needham
Oldring (batting)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schlei (batting)
Schulte (back view)
Sheckard (glove)
Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (batting)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wheat


Please compare your PIEDMONT 460/42 cards with the above list of 36. Any new inputs will be very appreciated.


TED Z

[White Borders]

Hi Ted,

I thought Bergen (catching) had been confirmed, (though I have not personally seen it)??? Otherwise, I'm in complete agreement with your list.

Best Regards,
Craig

[tedzan]

I have removed Bergen from the confirmed list, as I can't find whatever evidence I had that it was confirmed.
And like you, I have never seen one.

TED Z

[Exhibitman]

What would be a fair price in vg condition:

--Piedmont 460/42 common?
--Non 460-only star?
--Non 460-only HOFer?
--A series 460 only "common"?
--A series 460 only star?
--A series 460 only HOFer?

[yoyot1]

I can't add anything; only question I have - my copy of the T206 super set spreadsheet from Bill Brown has Chance (batting) marked (the initials are TZ). I'm assuming this is incorrect?