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Old 10-07-2009, 09:13 PM
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A few years back I won a couple of 54 Bowman FB 1 cent packs (sorry not BB) and opened the worst conditioned pack. Here is the card from that pack . Looks like the pack was exposed to heat at some point. No way to tell from the outside of the pack. This would be a difficult job for that "gone with the stain" company
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Old 10-07-2009, 11:21 PM
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Same here. I opened a 1954 Football pack and a 1956 Topps Round Up (non sport)...then ate the gum.

The Round Up ended graded an 8.


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Old 10-08-2009, 07:57 AM
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Same here. I opened a 1954 Football pack and a 1956 Topps Round Up (non sport)...then ate the gum.

The Round Up ended graded an 8.


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UGH. I had someone hand me a piece of 66 topps gum, I just nipped a corner, and spit it out. I loved 81 fleer and Donruss Gum, even in the 90s. Good stuff..haha.
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Old 10-08-2009, 09:09 AM
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Mine are 1949 Bowman BB and 1949 Leaf BB


...................1949 BOWMAN............................................ ...........1949 LEAF

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Old 10-08-2009, 09:21 AM
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We have a winner so far. Did you get anything good when you opened them sir?
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Same here. I opened a 1954 Football pack and a 1956 Topps Round Up (non sport)...then ate the gum.

The Round Up ended graded an 8.


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I still have some unopened Topps 1980 Thirst Break gum packs I would be glad to send you if you want to try them. I think they started out orange. They are a little green now, but still very juicy. And when to goo is all removed ( licked clean ?) you get that great sports comic

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Old 10-08-2009, 10:10 AM
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BUYER BEWARE !

The last 1949 Bowman pack (approx. 8 years ago) was a FAKE. I won it off ebay and was excited to open it.

My excitement instantly turned to disappointment, as it was obviously gimmicked up......

1st....it had a skinny slab of Topps gum in it (Bowman bubble gum was the same size as the cards).

2nd....the 5 cards in it were from 4 different series in the 1949 set (a real NO-NO).

3rd....and, the condition of the 5 cards ranged from Vg to ExMt.


I confronted the seller with this and he didn't want to hear it. He claimed he won this "unopened" pack from a
well-known Auction house.

Furthermore, ebay's Safe Harbor mediator ruled in favor of the seller. And, you don't want to know the details
of how the mediator arrived at that judgment....as they were outrageous.


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Old 10-08-2009, 10:19 AM
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Sadly, the fakes are all around. I recall buying a 1969 cello, first series, from Darren Prince at the 1992 Atlanta national. I got the itch and opened it. Not only did I get all commons, not even Nr Mintish, but THREE OF THE CARDS HAD WAX STAINS ON THE FRONT. Kinda hard to do in a CELLO PACK, don't you think?

Im sorry you got gypped on your purchase as well sir.
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That would be another reason I would avoid buying high dollar packs. Not only is it a total gamble if you will pull anything worthwhile, it's hard telling if it has been doctored or not. I totally forgot I had bought a 1956 Topps 1 cent pack and it had a Ted Williams in it, but both PSA and SGC rejected it for evidence of trimming. The guy I bought it from said he was the original owner and did give me my money back. The card measured properly so I have no idea what was wrong.

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Wow, a fake cello pack?! That's pretty hard to create I would think. I guess you gotta give the guy credit for being able to fake those. Sorry you got ripped off though.
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BUYER BEWARE !

The last 1949 Bowman pack (approx. 8 years ago) was a FAKE. I won it off ebay and was excited to open it.

My excitement instantly turned to disappointment, as it was obviously gimmicked up......

1st....it had a skinny slab of Topps gum in it (Bowman bubble gum was the same size as the cards).

2nd....the 5 cards in it were from 4 different series in the 1949 set (a real NO-NO).

3rd....and, the condition of the 5 cards ranged from Vg to ExMt.


I confronted the seller with this and he didn't want to hear it. He claimed he won this "unopened" pack from a
well-known Auction house.

Furthermore, ebay's Safe Harbor mediator ruled in favor of the seller. And, you don't want to know the details
of how the mediator arrived at that judgment....as they were outrageous.


TED Z

Just brought back a BAD memory (fortunatley with a decent ending)- I purchased a magazine described as near mint with Marilyn Monroe on the cover - when it arrived, in addition to the staples being rusted, the cover was actually seperated from the magazine!! At the time it went to the ebay insurer - I will not bore you with more details - but after the insurance co approved the claim, then denied the claim, and I pursued it at length, I ended up with reimbursement and the magazine - idiots!
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Nice job on the old '54 FB rip, Michael. That is pretty cool. I believe that nowadays the gum is so small it's not even there, but I don't know that for sure . I know I ripped '68 thru '73 packs, as a kid.

I guess I could rip this one from 1938 and see who's in it .

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A few years back I won a couple of 54 Bowman FB 1 cent packs (sorry not BB) and opened the worst conditioned pack. Here is the card from that pack . Looks like the pack was exposed to heat at some point. No way to tell from the outside of the pack. This would be a difficult job for that "gone with the stain" company
That the pack you opened was also (See my post about 60 Topps) from the same Rosen find as the packs I mentioned which he purchased in Paris, Tenn.

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Old 01-15-2010, 09:18 PM
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That the pack you opened was also (See my post about 60 Topps) from the same Rosen find as the packs I mentioned which he purchased in Paris, Tenn.

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Now that you mention it, I would have to agree with you. I remember that find. My guess is the other pack that I still have would yield close to the same result. Guess I will keep it unopened to go with my set.

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1951 Topps Red.


In the 80s... I also opened up a box of Polar Bear tobacco hoping their would be a card in the package. There wasn't.
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Old 01-15-2010, 09:44 PM
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The post from Rich got me to looking and I actually had 2 unopened 54 FB packs left so I ripped one right now just for the heck of it.

The card is o/c but it is Chuck Bednarik . Don't think I will be submitting this one to a grading service. Nice generous chunk of gum from Bowman back in the fifties that is very much stuck on the card!
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I opened a pack of Allen & Ginter cigarettes. Smoked the cigs, and threw the card away, someone named Anton or something. Never heard of him.
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