Long time lurker with first question

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ksabet

Just as an example there is a #280 Kennedy PSA 4 for $150. I checked VCP and the average of the last few is around $35 with $79 being the highest ever. I offered $60 and got a firm no.

Just seems like bad business to me, but I am no expert so thanks again.

Just have more patience. You will find this card in your price range.....Cards like these are a bit soft right now. If I were a set builder I wouldn't want to pay more for a (seemingly) common card than has ever been paid before. Quite the contrary, I would be looking for a deal on the low end. regards

[FrankWakefield]

My recollection is that about 20 years ago, or so, I'd find a card I'd been wanting in one of Larry Fritsch's catalogs, an old card. From experience, I knew 2 things, first was that it seemed that many of the cards I'd ordered from him were overgraded, and the second was that it was very easy to return any card I'd bought if I didn't like the condition or anything else about the card. A super easy return policy. He'd have a few cards, from time to time, that I just couldn't find anywhere else. Trouble was that they'd be priced quite a bit beyond what I thought the card was worth... which gets me to the point of just how badly do you desire the card. Too many times I've paid more than I thought a card was worth because I really wanted it. It is a balancing thing... I don't buy or collect a card because I think it is worth "X" dollars, I buy it because I want it. So at some point the card is the thing, not the money. Still, if you don't want the card that badly, then I wholeheartedly agree with that above about not legitimizing the insane BuyItNow prices on eBay.

Years ago I paid $120 for the Sinex T210 series 6 card... at the time I thought the card was worth about $25 to $30. I was annoyed at paying that much for it. I still am. But I wanted the card. And a week after I got it there was no way I'd sell it for $150 or so. Same holds true today. I wanted the card. And paying too much for cards is how I gathered in some that I have. If you're that enamored with the registry thing, then I think you'll eventually pay too much for some cards that you really want. So revive this thread in a couple of months, and let us know which cards you added at inflated prices. I won't ridicule such a purchase, I've been right there with you.

[Matt]

Frank - I think to a great degree, especially with cards more common then series 6 T210s, such as '38 Goudeys, eBay has become a great equalizer. If you knew there was a decent chance you'd be able to find that T210 sometime in the next month at market price, I doubt you would have paid Larry what you did. At the time, you had no other option.

[Howe’s Hunter]

has anyone noticed that Fritsch no longer even lists any T206 cards on line? It says the one-of-a-kind catalog is out of print, but you could fnd it online. But the link to it is missing. There were updated pages added within the last month or so, but no T206s.

I've called three times and left messages asking if they still sell them, or had moved away from the set, and have also e-mailed twice. Never a response.

[ksabet]

SO far I have not overpaid, but Frank brought up a great point. Do I go with desire or principle?

Seems to relate more than just cards huh?

[FrankWakefield]

Matt I agree with you on the 'supply' aspect... the a 38 Goudey is more plentiful than a T210. I agree, if the cards are available from time to time, then a bit of patience is in order.

Still, I'd not fault someone for paying what some would think is too much, just to get a certain card in hand. Doing that is card collecting for the card (or maybe the slab)... instead of buying because of a card's alleged value, or for some investment fallacy.

[Jim VB]

Kiya,

You're limiting your options by shopping for PSA graded only. On the card you mention, (#280) the PSA 4 is offered for $150, but there's an SGC 40 offered for $45. Buy it and cross it over.

Edited to add: http://cgi.ebay.com/1938-Goudey-Head...mZ380158074976


(Not my card. Just did a quick Ebay search.)


Edit #2- On this one, take a chance on a raw card. http://cgi.ebay.com/1938-Goudey-Head...mZ350253673365

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

Edit #2- On this one, take a chance on a raw card. http://cgi.ebay.com/1938-Goudey-Head...mZ350253673365

I don't think that one is going to grade too high - I've only seen the front, but there's a crease in the top left corner and what appear to be a stain between his legs. Back scan would be nice as well...

[ksabet]

I have been lucky enough to find a couple of the cards and am in the process of working out a deal for the two Dimaggio's at a reasonable price with Joe's Vintage cards. They are SGC's 30 and 40 respectively.

It's nice to know there are still good people in this hobby. I will continue to update as I finish the set. Once again I appreciate all the help.

On a side note I noticed that seller yepbg had been talked about in a previous thread and he may be a nice enough guy, but when I asked him essentially the same question I asked to the board about the five-times-the-value-inflated-price of his PSA 4 Kennedy his response was:

"Kiya, your business is not welcome here. Your user ID has been added to my blocked bidders list. Have a nice day."

Guess he didn't like the inquiry.

Enjoy the weekend.

[nolemmings]

Kiya,

In case it wasn't obvious, he was the seller I was referring to when I told how he responded to a request for discount on his BIN by saying no and then raising the price further. Since he has almost 1500 auctions running, ALL OF THEM BIN, he is basically saying he won't take your money at even his inflated prices. Given that he is taking that approach, he will never see a dime of my $$$ either. Time to just move along.

[3-2-count]

Kiya, you've found one of the best dealers in the business.
Joe's Vintage Sportscards is top notch. Good luck!!!

[terjung]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

Kiya, you've found one of the best dealers in the business.
Joe's Vintage Sportscards is top notch. Good luck!!!

I second that. Joe Y. is a good guy to deal with.

Brian

[tbob]

Kiya- Don't feel bad. You are right that Seller yepbg overprices his BINs and responds sarcastically and harshly at any attempts to try to buy his items at a slightly lower price. I quit tracking his items years ago.

[egbeachley]

How do we have several folks say he's a good guy but at the same time he's proving that he's an ass with overpriced cards?