What Do You Guys Think of this Grade?

[Steve D]

Both side edges look like they have just about as many waves as the Pacific Ocean.


Steve

[terjung]

Originally Posted by Steve D

Both side edges look like they have just about as many waves as the Pacific Ocean.


Steve

Oh, no. Are you saying that El Nino is responsible for this now too???

[barrysloate]

That's just a bad job of grading, and a bad system in place to assess Old Judges. Besides the questionable cut, the photo is muddy and indistinct. No OJ with that poor an image should qualify for an 80 grade. About three years ago Dave Forman told me that SGC was going to address the issue of how photo quality impacts the grade of a photographic issue, but I don't think they got anywhere with it. I would grade that a 40 at best, and Authentic if the edges are trimmed.

[kkkkandp]

As has already been mentioned, given the yardstick being used probably technically correct, but aesthetically generous.

Sort of the antithesis of...

[tbob]

I'd give the card a grade of authentic and pass on it. An 80 is unbelievable.

[Joe_G.]

That card does appear trimmed, but I sympathize with 3rd party graders at times with OJs. Unless you are real familiar with the set, it can be tough. The variation in card size can be substantial with the 1887 Brooklyn cards (excluding the Brooklyn minis) and the 1889/90 cards being the largest. You then have the Script cards as the smallest and the Fa/Fb cards not far behind. It's not uncommon for a single border to be cut short but this 1889 looks short on more than one side and may not even have a straight cut.

Card looks suspicious, but I'd like to see in person. W.r.t. photo quality, not so nice but we all know that doesn't factor into grade as of yet.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Joe_G.

That card does appear trimmed, but I sympathize with 3rd party graders at times with OJs. Unless you are real familiar with the set, it can be tough. The variation in card size can be substantial with the 1887 Brooklyn cards (excluding the Brooklyn minis) and the 1889/90 cards being the largest. You then have the Script cards as the smallest and the Fa/Fb cards not far behind. It's not uncommon for a single border to be cut short but this 1889 looks short on more than one side and may not even have a straight cut.

Card looks suspicious, but I'd like to see in person. W.r.t. photo quality, not so nice but we all know that doesn't factor into grade as of yet.

I thought the same thing at first, with respect to the borders....maybe one could be thin....but not all of them

[buymycards]

The scan isn't real great, but the card sure seems to be missing the borders.

Rick