Board Members--Please read

[Matt]

Jantz - great catch and thanks for posting it. My concern whenever I see this kind of thing is that even though this is somewhat benign, if he's doing this, who knows what else he's doing...

[Jantz]

Frank - Thank you for posting the links

Matt - I totally agree with you.

Jantz

[FrankWakefield]

You're welcome, Jantz. I thought that would make it easier for folks to figure it all out.

The seller never mentions Topps. It isn't mentioned in the listing, the description, not anywhere. It's just there in the image...

Seems like the Topps holders would be slightly different for old cards, new signed cards, bat bit cards... are they different, or all the same?

[slidekellyslide]

Interesting....perhaps Larry should ask himself his own question.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...0&postcount=21

[FrankWakefield]

Some time ago, we could go to an eBay listing, click on a bidder, and contact him to warn him about what he's bidding on, a reprint, a forgery... but now, the new system doesn't allow for that. I'd think eBay has increased their liability exposure by changing that in that manner.

[Bridwell]

Larry, do you have any response to this???

[Jantz]

Frank

I too noticed that the seller never mentions a few key words in his descriptions.

All the holders are exactly the same except for the color, which has no significance as to what type of card (bat-jersey-T206) was placed in the holder.

Here are some examples. By the way..the Gasper is mine if you didn't notice. As far as I can tell the Gasper has not been tampered with. I've owned it since 2006.

Jantz

[Sterling Sports Auctions]

Is it possible that that card is actually not in the holder and only photoshopped to look like it.

I think it is best at this point to put out the sellers name. As stated previously if he can do this what else is he doing?

Nice Work, Jantz

Lee

[teetwoohsix]

Great work Jantz-good lookin' out.I have a question though-why would a Topps buy back T-206 be worth more than a "raw" T-206?Aren't they the same thing?I may be wrong,but I thought the buybacks were T-206's Topps bought back from collectors to insert as a promotional for customers who bought the Topps 206 sets.Anyhow,you did a fantastic job on catching this,and I appreciate you investing your time,for your fellow collectors,and for the hobby!

[Scott L.]

Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

Great work Jantz-good lookin' out.I have a question though-why would a Topps buy back T-206 be worth more than a "raw" T-206?Aren't they the same thing?I may be wrong,but I thought the buybacks were T-206's Topps bought back from collectors to insert as a promotional for customers who bought the Topps 206 sets.Anyhow,you did a fantastic job on catching this,and I appreciate you investing your time,for your fellow collectors,and for the hobby!

Clayton

They are actual T206's but some people collect the buybacks and they do often carry a premium to a like card that is simply raw.

Best,

Scott

[Jantz]

Clayton,

Yes, they are actually the same thing. I guess collectors just like them for what they there. Just like some collectors here only buy cards of a certain player, set or team. Alot of people who collect modern only buy rookie cards. It all boils down to people collect what they like and the only difference between a raw T206 and the Buybacks is the holder and the fact that Topps purchased them and placed/sealed them in these holders. For some reason though, (and I don't know why) collectors seem to pay extra for the Buybacks. Its a mystery to me because they could buy a better raw or graded version for probably the same price. Hope I answered your question.

Jantz

[Ladder7]

Originally Posted by bowlingshoegiverouterguy

Is it possible that that card is actually not in the holder and only photoshopped to look like it.

Confirmed, It's resealed. Nice work J

[FrankWakefield]

Ratz, the seller of the Burch card has canceled the auction. I was hoping to buy it for less than the $18 he'd paid for it.

Larry, you must have read this thread? I wish you hadn't canceled the auction...

[Bosox Blair]

Well Larry's recent Cobbs for sale post implies he is terminally ill...at least that is how I read it.

Cheers,
Blair

[lharri3600]

First allow me to thank the person who found this on ebay. I've dealt with some of you and i have talked to some in the past. I'm in agreement with him this is dead wrong. However i need to say that my brother who handles the ebay side of our business has done this thing not i. I have the utmost amountof respect for the hobby and would never attempt to pull a stunt like this. I mean i already own 2 t206 sets at this time. Money is not an object for me not this point in my life. Why? Cancer has said so!! Thats my reason for selling my cards off. I have told him to take down the ones he put in holders. Infact i'm going to check our purchase records and see which ones i bought from bertfro(his ebay handle) a few years ago. If i see any one not purchased from bert or any other person, they will be taken off. Again those here on 54 that know me know i am a man on strong conviction and a man of integerity.
I guess that's all i can say.
Larry

[calvindog]

Did I tell you guys I lost my virginity to a girl from Canada when I was at sleepaway camp when I was 14? Really. Oh, you don't believe me?

[Ladder7]

Wasn't she the one with three bosoms?

[Dan Carson]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Did I tell you guys I lost my virginity to a girl from Canada when I was at sleepaway camp when I was 14? Really. Oh, you don't believe me?

What took so long?

[lharri3600]

As stated before my brother handles the ebay part of our card business. This not an excuse. You can believe me you don't have to, that's your choice. I'm a very sick man and at this juncture in my life what others think does not bother me. All listings will be removed that are from topps.

[Steve D]

Well for whatever it's worth, I've dealt with Larry six times over the past 5 months, all regarding T206s (all PSA graded).

I've never had any problems with any of the transactions. I've had friendly communications with him, he's shipped the cards quickly, and all transactions have been nothing but professional.

I have to, and choose to take him at his word regarding this situation.

Larry, I really wish you nothing but the best regarding your ongoing health concerns. You've been a pleasure to deal with, and I hope to be able to continue doing so.


Steve

[teetwoohsix]

Thanks for the run down Jantz,you are right,it's all about preferance when it comes to collecting anything.Now,I just want to also say for the record that I've bought from Larry at least a couple of times on Ebay,and it was a righteous transaction each time,I was very pleased with what I purchased,how fast he shipped,the packaging,and his communication.I do beleive what he is saying.Just my 2 cents,thats all.

[V117collector]

Originally Posted by lharri3600

First allow me to thank the person who found this on ebay. I've dealt with some of you and i have talked to some in the past. I'm in agreement with him this is dead wrong. However i need to say that my brother who handles the ebay side of our business has done this thing not i. I have the utmost amountof respect for the hobby and would never attempt to pull a stunt like this. I mean i already own 2 t206 sets at this time. Money is not an object for me not this point in my life. Why? Cancer has said so!! Thats my reason for selling my cards off. I have told him to take down the ones he put in holders. Infact i'm going to check our purchase records and see which ones i bought from bertfro(his ebay handle) a few years ago. If i see any one not purchased from bert or any other person, they will be taken off. Again those here on 54 that know me know i am a man on strong conviction and a man of integerity.
I guess that's all i can say.
Larry

All I can say is awesome job Jant, keep up the good work!!! Maybe it time to change' all passwords as well...