Ebay Fraud

[cmcclelland]

I am planning to alert the proper authorities as well as Paypal, ebay, and UPS. I've already got a phone message from UPS asking me to follow up on the insurance claim (I assume he filed the claim with UPS before everything blew up on him). I plan to wait a week or so to see if this guy is really going to still pursue the insurance claim after all of this. If he does that, then I'll have no mercy. Bottom line - don't worry - I'll make sure he pays for what he did.

However, I agree with Leon. If this just goes away without any real damages (just an "attempt" to defraud and steal money), I'm not sure the police, FBI, or anyone else will really want to spend much time doing anything about it. It sucks that a-hole's like this are out there. I guess we can all at least learn something from this. I certainly did.

By the way, anyone got a nicely centered 1952 Topps Mantle in a PSA 4 holder they would like to sell for around $10k? I was flying high thinking I got this great deal - now I'm back to square 1. lol

[Fred]

This guy is a dirt bag. If he already filed a claim with UPS then I'd, at a minimum, I would alert UPS to this scam. This $hitbag deserves everything he has coming to him. It's people like him that totally screw up things for everyone else. If UPS had to pay out $10K+ for this you know who's going to pay for it.... all the other consumers. For all you know this guy could be a total con. Why let him get away with this. He needs a good beat down by the authorities. Maybe, just maybe he'll learn his lesson.

Do you know why you received an immediate refund via paypal? Because the guy is a thief and he knew he was caught. He's probably praying that you just let this go. Do you think he'll learn a lesson from this? NO - if he gets away with it he'll think he can pull the scam on someone else because he got away with it.

It took years to finally prosecute that idiot "Crazy Canuck" $hitbag and it was worth the effort and time to do it because he's no longer screwing people.

This board deserves a pat on the back for the effort that resulted in this positive outcome.

Leon, perhaps you could create a new categorey called CAVEAT EMPTOR and allow the community to post the names of bonafide dirtbags (ebay sellers, etc) that need to be avoided. I would say that the list should be reserved for only those that are absolute buttheads.

[Vintagecatcher]

Colt,

I'm glad you were able to get your money back. What happened to you is something we all worry about as collectors.

Good luck in your search!

Patrick

[sportscardtheory]

I hate to say it, but he should have just stuck to his guns and said it was the Post Offices fault. He basically admitted the fraud by canceling the claim. Good for him, at least he won't be stealing anyone else's money any time soon.

[drc]

As was posted earlier, it was said the seller never had the card in the first place to sell, just the borrowed image. Huggins and Scott said they've had the card the whole time. If that's true, that would be evidence the seller would have a tough time getting around.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by sportscardtheory

I hate to say it, but he should have just stuck to his guns and said it was the Post Offices fault. He basically admitted the fraud by canceling the claim. Good for him, at least he won't be stealing anyone else's money any time soon.

The Post Office has nothing to do with this case. He shipped the card by UPS. Since UPS is a private company, they will have to go after him for the attempted fraud (and I hope they do!)

Sad to say, many crooks have learned to avoid shipping by US Postal Service because they have a reputation of being tougher on mail fraud. It is a Federal crime and that scares off some of the crooks. (I'm not saying this reputation is deserved, but it's a perception.)

We have a couple of long time UPS employees on this board (and who have commented in this thread.) Perhaps they can chime in on how UPS handles this sort of thing vs. how the USPS deals with it.

[Ladder7]

Scott Mele, Your new celly wants to know, "What can Brown do for you?"

[slidekellyslide]

Scott Mele is aware of this thread and has contacted me (and probably the other moderators) about taking this thread down before he gives his side of the story. How stupid does he think we are? What other side of the story could there be? He stole the scan from Huggins and Scott!!! He shipped an empty box with a slit in it!!! He dropped his insurance claim with UPS the minute they were on to him!!!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Fred

Leon, perhaps you could create a new categorey called CAVEAT EMPTOR and allow the community to post the names of bonafide dirtbags (ebay sellers, etc) that need to be avoided. I would say that the list should be reserved for only those that are absolute buttheads.

While I would like to do this I think it would open me and others up to liability we don't need. No matter how cut and dry something is someone can sue...and then fees get incurred on both sides. Just ask a few board members .

[makersmarkambassador]

Colt...I work in the IT dept at UPS in Louisville's Worldport. Just about every air package comes through our hub. If you give me the tracking #, I can look it up in the database and see where it was through the building at all times. It gets scanned 8 times from the minute it's unloaded to the time it gets loaded in the container and is all automated. No more throwing packages(lol). If you want to email me privately at david.goff@insightbb.com and I'll get back with you tomorrow.

As Tom stated, we get calls from security asking us to see the last time a package was scanned in our building that way the can look at the tape of the area in question.