The Truly "Tough" cards

onlychild · #1 11-11-2009, 03:22 PM

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Joe P and Kevin S

Your observations are correct. The scan I posted (in post #11) is that of a (Graded) fake Joe Doyle error card.
I intentionally posted this card......to see how long it would take for some one here to identify that it is a fake.
As, the tendency on this Net is to assume that every card displayed in a professionally graded plastic is legit.

And, no Joe....that card is not one of the 7 authentic T206 Doyle error cards.

Nice one Ted! With your great knowledge I kinda' figured right away it was a test or you were waiting for a response. Again...nice one!

I'm not sure if it should be called a fake or an alteration...I vote for doctored.

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For those who are new and are are wondering what's this all about:

That particular Doyle card has had the original name removed and then reprinted as the ultra-rare version, valued as much as a Wagner. To top it off, it was graded a PSA 5 and is included in Joe Orlando's book, "Collecting Sports Legends"...page 43. It was spotted by the legendary Rob Lifson of REA, who wrote about it on his blog. It was a spectacular and amazing catch by Rob!!!

As mentioned before, this type of alteration or doctoring is at the very advanced level and requires multiple skilled steps. It was just a matter of time before one surfaced (but on the Doyle and graded!?!)...sure there will be others. This card doctor was a real pro IMHO but by all means it should have been detected by a grader, if not under a black-light then almost definitely under a halogen. Makes one wonder how it passed through? This should be forever talked about and never forgotten...screamed from the rooftops of all collectors.

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Leon · #2 11-11-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by onlychild

This should be forever talked about and never forgotten...screamed from the rooftops of all collectors.

.Kevin Saucier
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I dare you to post this on the CU boards

. As for forgetting it I would guess PSA would like to but since it's in their magnificant coffee table book on the top cards in the hobby it won't ever completely go away. I would also guess the owner is not so happy either, unless restitution has been made.

onlychild · #3 11-11-2009, 03:53 PM

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I dare you to post this on the CU boards

Good dare!!! Oh man..no way

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Last time I pointed at PSA, I got totally banned by David Hall...all inclusive, submitting, posting, access to the site, they even removed my name from all published articles. Joe and I spoke and he at least gave me my membership back. Would still like my name back on the articles though.

Shame too...it's really a terrific book, well made and spectacular pictures. I would highly recommend it. The cards are simply amazing.

Like you, wonder what happened with the owner? Would be nice to know if they owned up to that one. I was made aware roughly what the owner paid for it and sure the restitution would have had a big impact on their financials. May have been covered under an E&O or some other policy though. Anyone know?

Kevin

Potomac Yank · #4 11-11-2009, 04:02 PM

No black light, or halogen needed .....

It screams out fake by an amateur doctor.

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