1964 Phillies World Series Tickets

[Potomac Yank]

Water boarding isn't torture?

[HRBAKER]

The Cardinals will be surprised to hear that the Phillies were in the 1964 World Series. I assume he is talking about phantom tickets.

[FrankWakefield]

I'd think about $20 to $60, for a set of what they call phantom tickets. If in good shape, and if you have a motivated buyer, maybe more. I've got a sheet of phantom White Sox tickets from about '83 or so, somewhere.

The folks here won't scalp you with a dull knife if you post about pre WWII stuff mostly, and if links are to an image instead of self serving...

As a Cardinal fan I recall laying on the floor by a radio, listening to those games in 1964 on the radio. Short and Bunning were good pitchers, but two weren't enough. And the Reds helped. Dad got 2 tickets for games 1, 2, 6, and 7 that year. I begged to go, he said, no, and no, then said I could go if there was a game 7. There was, he took me, and I saw a great 7-5 win over the Yankees, Mantle hit is last WS homer. I recall a wirephoto in the newspapers showing a Philly fan holding his WS tickets...

[tedzan]

With respect to baseball, truer words were never spoken, as your......
"Short and Bunning were good pitchers, but two weren't enough."

Jim Bunning in 1964 went 19-8 with a 2.6 ERA....and, an amazing K/BB ratio of 219/46.
Similarly, Chris Short was 17-9 with a 2.2 ERA....and, an amazing K/BB ratio of 181/51.
For comparison:
Bob Gibson in 1964 went 19-12 with a 3.0 ERA....and, an amazing K/BB ratio of 245/86.

Now, this is somewhat vague in my mind, but with only 19 games to go, the Phillies were ahead of your Cardinals by 6 games.
The Phillies loss in 1964 has to be one of the worst collapses of any team in BB history. Why Gene Mauch didn't give Bunning
and Short a break by inserting Art Mahaffey in the starting rotation ?....Oh Well !

POST SCRIPT

I usually run into Jim Bunning in Cooperstown every HOF weekend. He's a great guy to talk with (I don't bring up the 1964 season).

In the early 1980's I had two great experiences with Chris Short at Tony Carrafiell's BB card show in Valley Forge (PA). A big guy is
at my table and is looking for Bowman Phillies cards. I show him an album full of Phillies to select from. A big smile is on his face as
he starts removing Bowman's from the plastic sheets. Tony Carrafiell comes over and greets the big guy...."Hi Chris". I then recog-
nized this big fellow....Chris Short. I pulled over a chair behind my table and told Chris to have a seat and take his time. We had a
great time "talkin' baseball", while he cleaned me out of the Phillies cards from my album. I gave Chris a really nice price for the lot
and he was thrilled. As he gave me a "bone crushing" handshake, he asked if I had any more Bowman's. I replied that I have more
at home. The next day Chris returned and I had more Phillies cards for him. The big guy was just like a little kid in a candy store.
Needless to say, Chris made my show that weekend.

Best regards,

TED Z

[barrysloate]

Ted- did you know that on the last day of the 1965 season, against the Mets, Chris Short pitched a 15 inning shutout with 18 strikeouts, and got a no decision? The game ended an 18 inning scoreless tie. You can look it up- October 2, 1965.

Edited to add I just looked it up and it was the second to last day- minor detail.

[tedzan]

I didn't know that, thanks for telling us. Gee, it appears that Bunning and Short were "bad news" guys
as far as the Mets were concerned in those days.

And, of course Jim Bunning on June 21, 1964 (Father's Day) pitched a Perfect game at Shea Stadium.
He only threw 90 pitches and 79 of them were strikes.....that's some amazing pitching. Also, Bunning
contributed to the 6-0 score, by driving in 2 runs with a Double.

TRIVIA ?

What was significant about this Perfect game ?


TED Z

[Rich Klein]

1) Fathers Day

2) I believe that made Bunning the 1st pitcher to toss no-hitters in each league in the 20th century. Cy Young had done that feat but his NL no-hitter was in the 19th century.

3) Rick Wise would win his 1st major league game in the 2nd game of the double header. Rick Wise's RC also includes this great typo for the other player pictured:

This 19 year-old right hander is only 18 years old.

4) Bunning also joined a very exclusive group to have pitched both a perfect game and another no-hitter. Cy Young and Addie Joss had already done that; Sandy Koufax (the next year); Mark Buehrle and Randy Johnson would join that group in the next 45 years.

Anything I missed

Regards
Rich

[David W]

Originally Posted by tedzan

I didn't know that, thanks for telling us. Gee, it appears that Bunning and Short were "bad news" guys
as far as the Mets were concerned in those days.

And, of course Jim Bunning on June 21, 1964 (Father's Day) pitched a Perfect game at Shea Stadium.
He only threw 90 pitches and 79 of them were strikes.....that's some amazing pitching. Also, Bunning
contributed to the 6-0 score, by driving in 2 runs with a Double.

TRIVIA ?

What was significant about this Perfect game ?


TED Z

Didn't Bunning have around 10 children, making Fathers Day a fitting time to pitch such a gem?