Brian Drent grades GEM MINT 10 for integrity

[calvindog]

It does sound like Drent screwed the consignor by being honest. What I hate most of all are heads of auction houses who screw the consignors rather than conspiring with them to rip off innocent bidders in auctions. Those are the great guys in our hobby, the ones who will help others steal money while stuffing as much in their pockets as possible. Those are the auctioneers we need to protect, displaying our false umbrage on the board whenever the truth comes out and the bad guys are attacked -- all in an effort to obfuscate, to protect wallets.

Better we should all pile on an innocent guy over a $100 misunderstanding instead. Funny how the guys who pile on the small-fries are wildly supportive of the big fraudsters, the great guys. I guess it's only offensive when they lose a few nickels; as long as they're on the right side of the equation when massive fraud goes down, it's all good.

I don't mean to be a downer or become irrelevant so perhaps we can have a good ol' fashioned bidding party and celebrate our ill-gotten windfalls! And before 10 or so of you email me secretly, thanking me for posting the truth, why not have the balls instead to post something here?

[Abravefan11]

Obfuscate...nice!

[White Borders]

Originally Posted by Abravefan11

Obfuscate...nice!

Hey Tim, hope you didn't miss "interpleader" and "umbrage" in the prior posts!

(I just hope that Joann, now that she has passed the bar, doesn't start using words they never taught me in engineering school)

[Abravefan11]

Just reading the posts on this board has ameliorated my vocabulary to the point I wish I could retake the SAT's.

[bigfish]

sorry....wrong forum

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bigfish

sorry....wrong forum

C'mon, my man Toby. I got to read what you really thought and I have to agree with you. Sometimes it does get to be a Shiite storm around here. I can safely say I deleted at least 2 posts before I hit the "submit reply" button. Both of those were a bit farther up the string here. And both of those posts came out a little more bitter than yours also.....so, it just wasn't right for "me" to post them. Now, if others want to vent, that's their business. All of that being said I have seen a lot worse . Happy collecting....

just to be clear I deleted my OWN post before I hit the submit button. I don't delete or edit other posts except for every great once in a while per the rules...like taking care of F-bombs

[bigfish]

I hear you but I prefer not to feed into this mess. Dan is a great guy and I prefer to stay out of this one.

Patriots are down by one score.



Leon,

looking forward to seeing you at the PA show. See you in a few days.

[Republicaninmass]

Sad to see some of these responses, it guess it just shows the integrity and morals of people. I bet they never had anything stolen from them of any value.

When my cards got stolen I called around and within 1 hour, I found them, every dealer seemed to know the sellers were suspicious. When I called, I described possibly what the criminals looked like, and what cards they had. Dealers responses "Seemed strange", "they didnt know what they had" "they had different stories" etc. Not many people walk around with 500+ 1952 topps in great shape. Sure enough ONE dealer eventually bought them. It taught me almost everyone has their price..among other things. Thieves are the lowest form of life..unless you are a bank robber the banks are insured

[Jacklitsch]

I think it comes down to this...

If the consignor was the original eBay buyer from Glendale CA the case closed. The Auction House did the right thing.

If the consignor was not the original eBay buyer then there potentially could be a problem here for the Auction House.

[Wesley]

Originally Posted by Jacklitsch

I think it comes down to this...

If the consignor was the original eBay buyer from Glendale CA the case closed. The Auction House did the right thing.

If the consignor was not the original eBay buyer then there potentially could be a problem here for the Auction House.

What a great summary Steve! You can switch jobs and become a summarizer, if there is such a thing.

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Sad to see some of these responses, it guess it just shows the integrity and morals of people. I bet they never had anything stolen from them of any value.

Who has posted here showing a lack of integrity or morals? Nobody.

Cheers,
Blair

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Bosox Blair

Who has posted here showing a lack of integrity or morals? Nobody.

Cheers,
Blair

Where did I say it shows a LACK of integrity or morals?


Cheers

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Where did I say it shows a LACK of integrity or morals?


Cheers

Oh - of course, you were sad to see the high morals and integrity. My mistake.

Cheers,
Blair

[Jewish-collector]

I've got the guts to post something:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnMiw...rom=PL&index=1

[Wesley]

Originally Posted by calvindog

It does sound like Drent screwed the consignor by being honest. What I hate most of all are heads of auction houses who screw the consignors rather than conspiring with them to rip off innocent bidders in auctions. Those are the great guys in our hobby, the ones who will help others steal money while stuffing as much in their pockets as possible. Those are the auctioneers we need to protect, displaying our false umbrage on the board whenever the truth comes out and the bad guys are attacked -- all in an effort to obfuscate, to protect wallets.

Better we should all pile on an innocent guy over a $100 misunderstanding instead. Funny how the guys who pile on the small-fries are wildly supportive of the big fraudsters, the great guys. I guess it's only offensive when they lose a few nickels; as long as they're on the right side of the equation when massive fraud goes down, it's all good.

I don't mean to be a downer or become irrelevant so perhaps we can have a good ol' fashioned bidding party and celebrate our ill-gotten windfalls! And before 10 or so of you email me secretly, thanking me for posting the truth, why not have the balls instead to post something here?

I didn't understand your entire post, but Dan said the consignor did not know the card was stolen. So I don't think the consignor is one of the great guys that you speak of so frequently.

Does anyone have a link to the card in question?