E100 printers scrap revisited

[Leon]

Originally Posted by packs

The Type 2's are definitely more closely cropped and have a more upfront image than the Type 1's, but Powell doesn't appear in the Type 2 set.

Powell hasn't been found (yet), or at least catalogued. He might appear as a late entry though.....So far you are stating the obvious, which is fairly easy to do. Thanks for the explanations .

[dstudeba]

Leon,

Are those all scaled the same? As I recall from the dimensions from the auctions on eBay the images were the same size as the issued cards. Also since the scan you show is a composite to cut out the holders on the new cards, it is a bit deceiving.
As probably previously mentioned, the scraps have nothing to do with Type IIs, the font and cropping is wrong.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

Leon,

Are those all scaled the same? As I recall from the dimensions from the auctions on eBay the images were the same size as the issued cards. Also since the scan you show is a composite to cut out the holders on the new cards, it is a bit deceiving.
As probably previously mentioned, the scraps have nothing to do with Type IIs, the font and cropping is wrong.

Good point Dan. I do need to go get the "scraps" from my safe deposit box so I can make sure they are sized the same as the regular ones. They very well might not be. Of course the fonts and cropping are wrong for the type 2's....but there looks to be a cropping difference, was all I was mentioning. It is rare for a similar type series to have different cropping ala the E100-1 and E100-2. So these being cropped differently than either type 1s or 2s (most likely) still makes sense...It probably is a 3rd different cropping but I will make sure later on and post a more accurate scan..

[dstudeba]

Hi Leon,

Sorry I just can't see the cropping difference. Now if the picture is to scale, then I see the difference. I think I would have noticed if the scraps were the same size as the regular e100s when you showed them to me at the National, as at that time I was working on the assumption that they were trimmed down from e100 size.
I look forward to seeing the side by side scan; or you can just sell one to me and I will do it.....

[Leon]

Here ya go....and of course you were correct....

[packs]

Stating the obvious, yes, but also grounded in fact. If these were type 2 scraps they would have the position followed by the period followed by the comma. But they don't. So even if Powell is uncatalogued in the Type 2 set, this is not his Type 2 scrap. I mean, if i bought these for the money they went for I'd want them to be printers scraps too and for Powell to not be catalogued. I wouldn't want them to be cut from ad piece or something like it either. Didn't mean any disrespect just trying to contribute to the discussion.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by packs

Stating the obvious, yes, but also grounded in fact. I mean, if i bought these for the money they went for I'd want them to be printers scraps too and for Powell to not be catalogued. I wouldn't want them to be cut from ad piece or something like it either. Didn't mean any disrespect just trying to contribute to the discussion.

No worries, Packs. When we have a debate it's always good to give a point of view and maybe offer some sort of suggestion. Anyone can see what they are...and now the cropping is the same when put side by side so that difference is moot. As far as what I paid my snipes were over 3x of the winning bid on the first one and over 2x of the 2nd one. I was very happy with what I paid for them. As for them being a printers scrap or cut from an ad piece, now that I too see the similar cropping, I am back to square one. Thanks for the debate so far. Sorry if I got a little defensive but I would like to hear a possible explanation for what these are, not the fact that they are what we see.....best regards

[E93]

If those latest scans are accurate size representations, then they are looking a lot more like printer's scrap in my book.
JimB

[dstudeba]

Thanks Leon, they still look great.