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Old 12-15-2009, 10:24 PM
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By the way, while Bruce will probably not comment on this thread again, he is following it closely.

He just sent me a PM wishing me a Merry Christmas (honest to God) and told me that the publicity from this has allowed him to close on three new deals.


He says that he intends on having the last laugh.
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:29 PM
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He should hope to be misquoted more often. Good for him, and good for us too. A little levity is a good thing.
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:34 PM
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I just hope he sent a thank you and an apology to Archive.
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By the way, while Bruce will probably not comment on this thread again, he is following it closely.

He just sent me a PM wishing me a Merry Christmas (honest to God) and told me that the publicity from this has allowed him to close on three new deals.


He says that he intends on having the last laugh.
Not sure which of the Bruces you spoke with but they emailed me yesterday at 1:05 PST telling me "While your posting away, we are bought five cards from our want list and closed three substantial business deals."

Looks like one of the Bruces has some more deals to close if he wants to catch up.

Oh and this Bruce did not wish me a Merry Christmas but told me to go play in the fires.

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Old 12-16-2009, 06:41 AM
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"While your posting away, we are bought five cards from our want list and closed three substantial business deals."


I guess English grammar and usage were never emphasized at Ivy League schools.
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That's defined as "writing style" by at least one Wharton grad, Jim.

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Old 12-16-2009, 03:20 PM
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Default 2 trains of thought...

Two things come to mind:

The serious one:
1). If Bruce is able to complete that many deals in that short a period of time, then the items on his want list really must not be that tough to find after all.

The funny one
2). I didn't realize that paying the pizza delivery person, ordering something on Amazon, and paying the credit card, cable, and electric bill qualified as business deals. If that's the case, then by the time Christmas is over with, I'll be ready to start my own Mergers and Acquisitions firm.


Getting back on topic, Baker's response on the matter only helps to shovel more dirt on his nearly worthless reputation.
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:54 PM
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Sean,

Just to make sure everyone is clear as to what you are talking about (dirt on reputation) I think you need to specify which Baker you are refering to; Mike Baker of GAI (not taking responsibility for grading these cards) or HRBaker (Ivybonics).

I am ASSUMING (and you KNOW what often happens when people do this) you are talking about Mike Baker and GAI but some people might think you are talking about HRBaker and his Ivybonics joke.

I thought that was funny but some people might have been offended and they might think you are talking about THAT Baker.

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Old 12-16-2009, 04:18 PM
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I was indeed referring to Mike Baker.

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Sean,

Just to make sure everyone is clear as to what you are talking about (dirt on reputation) I think you need to specify which Baker you are refering to; Mike Baker of GAI (not taking responsibility for grading these cards) or HRBaker (Ivybonics).

I am ASSUMING (and you KNOW what often happens when people do this) you are talking about Mike Baker and GAI but some people might think you are talking about HRBaker and his Ivybonics joke.

I thought that was funny but some people might have been offended and they might think you are talking about THAT Baker.

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Old 12-17-2009, 04:27 AM
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Rob -yesterday we received an inquiry from a collector who we don't and who to the best of our knowledge has never posted.

He mentioned your Wanted a copy of... in his e-mail. We spoke on the phone, and we were able to obtain two Negro League items for a very modest cost.

Just wanted to say thank you..and let you that for $25,000 (cash or certified check)- we will send you individual photos of all items in our collection valued at $1000 or more. Each item will be photographed next to our want list, and we'll even throw in the Archive Post

As point of interest, Rob D has been more than happy to sell us items including two in 2009. So we assume that money is far more important
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Happy Holidays .... Rob

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Old 12-17-2009, 05:47 AM
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Wow, Bruce, where to start?

I read your last post three times in an effort to decipher what you're trying to say. I'll respond the best I can.

I think you're offering to mail me photos of your collection if I pay you $25,000? Bruce, I've never asked you to post anything from your collection. Frankly, your collection matters little to me. I merely explained above one of the ridiculous reasons you've given for not posting photos of the items you say you own.

As for me selling you items: About two years ago, before I learned more about you and your comical reputation on the board, I sold you a complete set of Sports Scoops magazines. The price was less than $300. It took you more than two weeks to mail your check to me.

Earlier this year, you were the high bidder on a hobby periodical once owned by Buck Barker that I posted on the B/S/T's auction section. The sale price was $26. After 10 days of the auction ending, your payment had not arrived.

After two e-mails to you went unanswered, you finally explained that your "assistant" addressed the envelope incorrectly and the letter was returned to you. You said that payment would be overnighted to me. Six days later your check finally arrived. Unfortunately, by then I had misplaced the periodical (and still haven't found it, gosh darn it), so I could not complete our deal. I returned your check, with an apology, along with a first-class stamp to refund the postage it cost you to mail the letter.

Bruce, I welcome you to challenge me on the accuracy of what I've described. I've kept every e-mail you've ever sent me (you can do that, you know) and have documented both transactions in which you've been slow to deliver payments of relatively modest amounts. At least one other respected board member has posted of a similar experience with you.

So, bottom line: I've sold you one item ... ever. None in 2009. Bruce, you've misstepped here. Badly.

Finally, I'm not sure where I stated that money is not important to me, as you ascertain. But, honestly, you criticizing anyone about their regard for money is the perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black.

Congratulations in advance for the six deals that no doubt will result from this post, allowing you to buy ultra-high-grade, rare items for mere pennies on the dollar.

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Old 12-17-2009, 06:11 AM
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Bruce- I wish you would lighten up a little and not be so antagonistic every time you post. You made a nutty comment when you threatened to sue Archive; I guess you realize by now that you are Archive and that you threatened to sue yourself. It was funny, we all had a laugh, and now we can move on. But you can't seem to find any humor in the goings on around here. As you like to say, it's a war- a constant war that never ends, with anyone and everyone. Why? What do you get out of it? I am baffled.

And if you are going to persist in telling us all about your Ivy League degrees, why not spend a moment proofreading your posts before you send them. They are always full of errors of every kind.

And please have a little more respect for all of us and not say that every time you start a train wreck, the result is somebody offers you an ultra rare card for less than its market value. Thank you. And no private emails- please keep it on the board.
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:16 AM
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Rob - but did you email Wharty three times asking for advise on how these high-roller transactions work? Maybe two weeks is normal for a $26 check.

Seriously folks, how in the world did I miss this thread? I could have been walking around mysteriously snickering for the past two days and missed the chance. HAH! There's two days I'll never get back.

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I guess English grammar and usage were never emphasized at Ivy League schools.

Ivybonics.
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this Bruce did not wish me a Merry Christmas but told me to go play in the fires.
Just.... read.... thread.....

....can't..... stop..... laughing... especially at this line.....
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By the way, while Bruce will probably not comment on this thread again, he is following it closely.

He just sent me a PM wishing me a Merry Christmas (honest to God) and told me that the publicity from this has allowed him to close on three new deals.


He says that he intends on having the last laugh.
Let's see ... it's allegedly America's Toughest Want List. Yet seemingly whenever Bruce's name is mentioned anywhere on the board, the publicity leads to multiple offers to acquire "important" cards he needs. At this rate he'll own every baseball card in existence by the next presidential election. Well, at least the important ones.

Bruce certainly deserves the last laugh. Lord knows he's provided enough of them to the folks on this board.

Wait ... hear that? He just closed another megadeal.
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:47 AM
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Take all that is said with a very large grain of salt.
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Let's see ... it's allegedly America's Toughest Want List. Yet seemingly whenever Bruce's name is mentioned anywhere on the board, the publicity leads to multiple offers to acquire "important" cards he needs. At this rate he'll own every baseball card in existence by the next presidential election. Well, at least the important ones.

Bruce certainly deserves the last laugh. Lord knows he's provided enough of them to the folks on this board.

Wait ... hear that? He just closed another megadeal.


Has anyone ever seen any of these cards show up in post. i mean if the cards are so Rare I sure as hell would post a pic or 2 every now and then for us to see. I haven't ever seen any of those cards and would love to. Hell I post pics of POS cards because I like them and maybe someone else will also.
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Has anyone ever seen any of these cards show up in post. i mean if the cards are so Rare I sure as hell would post a pic or 2 every now and then for us to see. I haven't ever seen any of those cards and would love to. Hell I post pics of POS cards because I like them and maybe someone else will also.
In the Group's defense they do own some very nice cards. I don't know about all of these current deals but their collection is high quality and real. I have seen many of their cards before. I don't believe ALL of the (current) deals they say they make though. Just call me "Mr.Skeptical"....best regards
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Has anyone ever seen any of these cards show up in post. i mean if the cards are so Rare I sure as hell would post a pic or 2 every now and then for us to see. I haven't ever seen any of those cards and would love to. Hell I post pics of POS cards because I like them and maybe someone else will also.
This video has been posted before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx4eVGUmbaM

p.s. He garrotes the cameraman at the end of the video.
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Has anyone ever seen any of these cards show up in post. i mean if the cards are so Rare I sure as hell would post a pic or 2 every now and then for us to see. I haven't ever seen any of those cards and would love to. Hell I post pics of POS cards because I like them and maybe someone else will also.
I still kick myself for not saving the original post, so forgive me for going from memory here. Once, on the old board, Bruce explained that the reason he couldn't post scans of his numerous, rare, ultra-high-grade, important (OK, those last six words are my embellishment) acquisitions was because his scanner couldn't "communicate" with Net54's "software."

Like many of his posts, it made little to no sense. But like many of his posts, it was funny in its absurdity. That's why I remember it.
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I still kick myself for not saving the original post, so forgive me for going from memory here. Once, on the old board, Bruce explained that the reason he couldn't post scans of his numerous, rare, ultra-high-grade, important (OK, those last six words are my embellishment) acquisitions was because his scanner couldn't "communicate" with Net54's "software."

Like many of his posts, it made little to no sense. But like many of his posts, it was funny in its absurdity. That's why I remember it.
That's the problem with multiple scanners, you get your wires crossed.
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Has anyone ever seen any of these cards show up in post. i mean if the cards are so Rare I sure as hell would post a pic or 2 every now and then for us to see. I haven't ever seen any of those cards and would love to. Hell I post pics of POS cards because I like them and maybe someone else will also.


I don't think there is any dispute that Bruce has a pretty nice collection. I've seen the video, and have seen a couple of things that are pretty incredible (Boston Garter uncut strip, for example.)

I'm also unsure that he closes 3 new deals every time someone makes fun of him.

I also know that he is a Luddite when it comes to 21st century technology. A few years ago he wanted a copy of something I have, but needed me to print it and mail it because he hadn't mastered downloading electronic images. I know on the rare occasion he has offered something for the board to look at, he would forward it to Leon and have him post it.

Given the depth of his understanding on the "Archive" issue, I'm OK that he doesn't try to post images.
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I also know that he is a Luddite when it comes to 21st century technology.
Then again, if Hemingway were alive today, he would be, too.
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As Jim mentioned the Group has sent me some pics to post before. They come over as weird file types but after working with them a bit I was able to post them. Here is one from their collection..
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Rob D.: Here is the post I think you are referring to. The poster? Archive! Coincidence? I think not.
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