Net54 T206 observation

E93 · #1 12-18-2009, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon

JimB- this wasn't about Gary not being a great guy (in the best sense of the word). He is. It's about taking and not giving. As I said, I also helped with that situation with some phone calls I made on his behalf. Absolutely he should be applauded (hear the applause?) for outing not being paid. I would just like to see him, and others, contribute a bit more. That is all....best regards

Leon,
I know you and Gary are friends and that you helped him out in this situation. This is all a discussion among friends. I consider you one of my better hobby friends as well. I also would love it if he posted more. Gary is being quite humble about his knowledge. But I think he was a bad example to be called out in this case because I don't see his example of calling out Mastro an example of "taking". He put himself out there in a way that also benefitted other readers who were being screwed by Mastro and maybe did not realize there were others. It seems as though Mastro (or Doug or whoever - I don't know the details) needed the PR debacle to start to do the right thing.

I think this was a case where frustration that knowledgeable (mostly) lurkers like Gary don't post more, confused what Gary had actually done, served as a hobby watchdog, and got him labeled (wrongly, imho) as a "taker". Just my .02. Take it for what it is worth.

JimB

edited to sign my name

Leon · #2 12-18-2009, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E93

Leon,
I know you and Gary are friends and that you helped him out in this situation. This is all a discussion among friends. I consider you one of my better hobby friends as well. I also would love it if he posted more. Gary is being quite humble about his knowledge. But I think he was a bad example to be called out in this case because I don't see his example of calling out Mastro an example of "taking". He put himself out there in a way that also benefitted other readers who were being screwed by Mastro and maybe did not realize there were others. It seems as though Mastro (or Doug or whoever - I don't know the details) needed the PR debacle to start to do the right thing.

I think this was a case where frustration that knowledgeable (mostly) lurkers like Gary don't post more, confused what Gary had actually done, served as a hobby watchdog, and got him labeled (wrongly, imho) as a "taker". Just my .02. Take it for what it is worth.

JimB

edited to sign my name

Jim- I consider you one of my better hobby friends, so we are in reciprocation of each other's friendship; Gary is right behind you

. That being said you might have to be in my shoes to feel the way I do. I am done on the subject also. Have a happy holidays and can't wait to get together at the National (I assume you will be there?).

E93 · #3 12-18-2009, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon

Jim- I consider you one of my better hobby friends, so we are in reciprocation of each other's friendship; Gary is right behind you

. That being said you might have to be in my shoes to feel the way I do. I am done on the subject also. Have a happy holidays and can't wait to get together at the National (I assume you will be there?).

I will be there. Looking forward to seeing you too Leon. Have a nice holiday.
JimB

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