W517 Minis

[iggyman]

In Frank Ward's checklist, he does not list the variations......of course, this is wise, since these are so tough it doesn't matter. But, does anybody own a W517 mini Lefty O'Doul with the Phillies team name? I have an O'Doul mini with the tougher Brooklyn team name. In Adam Warshaw's website he also displays a W517 mini with the Brooklyn team name. It's a small sample size, but is this the only version that exists on the O'Doul mini's?

To go a little bit off-topic, but it relates to the W517's.....

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...n/2004/96.html

Lovely Day...

[paul]

I've seen the George Kelly and it lists him with Brooklyn. That puts the card at 1932. The O'Doul with Brooklyn would have to be 1931 or 1932 -- and 1932 seems more likely since the minis were probably issued for only a short time. So, it may be that the W517 minis are strictly a 1932 issue, made in a single printing with no variations, while the regular W517s were issued over a three year period with many team variations.

[leftygrove10]

Paul:

Over which three years do you suspect that the W517's were issued? 1930, 1931 and 1932?

Brad

[iggyman]

Frank Ward has the mini's listed under the year 1932 and states there is proof that the W517's were printed in ca. 1931. The O'Doul Brooklyn variation is the corrected version (which only proves it was updated later in the print run). From my limited experience the Brooklyn version is tougher then the Phillies version. Francis "Lefty" O'Doul played with the Phillies from 1929-1930 and then moved on to Brooklyn (after the 1930 season). The card depicts him in a New York Giants uniform (1928 season). Here are three of the mini's I own (as well as a regular size W517 for comparison). Apparently, these three cards were once own by Exhibitman (way back in 2004). If I ever get them slabbed, perhaps I should label them the "Scgaynor Frederick MD + Exhbitman 2004 National + 2009 Iggyman find".......is there a limit on the numbers of letters I can use on a slab?

Lovely Day...

[scgaynor]

There were like 5 or 6 Gehrig's in my group. I think that there were about 20 different cards. If I remember correctly the most common cards in terms of qty were Grove, Kamm, Waner and I want to say Earnshaw and there were about 10-15 of each of them. I should have kept better records, but back then my interest was in selling them and moving on.

Scott

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by iggyman

Apparently, these three cards were once own by Exhibitman (way back in 2004).

Lovely Day...

Nope; I still have mine. Looked at the Klein the other night as a matter of fact.

[David W]

These are the ones I picked up on Ebay a couple years back

I also picked up some actors and actresses, scans available if anyone wants to see them

[paul]

Brad,

Yes, I think the W517s were issued from 1930-32. I base the 1930 date on the fact that Grover Cleveland Alexander is listed as a Phillie, where he played only in 1930 (and decades earlier). The 1932 date is based on George Kelly with the Dodgers. I haven't given much thought to whether the cards were issued in 1931. It's possible that the cards were issued only in 1930 and 1932, unless there is good evidence of a print run updating the players for the 1931 season.

Paul