Who Should Be in the Hall that isn't

[calvindog]

John Candalaria
Bruce Kison
Fred Lynn
Mike Easler
Will Clark
Frank Tanana

[tbob]

Originally Posted by calvindog

John Candalaria
Bruce Kison
Fred Lynn
Mike Easler
Will Clark
Frank Tanana

Jeff- you forgot Dock Ellis who for no other reason should be in for pitching a perfect game while under the influence of LSD. Let's see Clemens try that!

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by tbob

Jeff- you forgot Dock Ellis who for no other reason should be in for pitching a perfect game while under the influence of LSD. Let's see Clemens try that!

Good point. And speaking of Clemens, how nauseous do you think he gets everytime the HOF inducts players? I can't wait for his first year on the ballot. Will he do better or worse than McGwire? I actually hate him much more than McGwire, not even close.

[WWGjohn]

My pick would be Jim Kaat. 283 wins and 16 gold gloves seem to me to be excellent credentials.

John

[ChiefBenderForever]

Yes Pete Rose was addicted to gambling, women, and who knows what else but what does that have to do with being one of the greatest hitters ever not to mention more hits than anyone to ever play the game ! So do we remove Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle because they were women chasing alcoholics ? Ty Cobb, where do you even start ? Tris Speaker ? Wade Boggs ? Mike Schmidt ? It's the hall of fame, not the hall of morals. I'm fine if Pete Rose doesn't get in , but then many, many great players need to be removed. Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, and many great players have admitted to taking speed pills to keep the energy going so is it fair for Clemens, Mcguire, and others who used a substance before it was even banned to not get in ? I think Clemens has to be let in, he was one of the greatest pitchers to ever step on the mound.

[Robextend]

I would like to have Pete Rose in as well, but he gambled on games his team played in. Then he lied about it for years even though there was plenty of evidence. If he came clean when it happened we probably wouldn't even be having this discussion right now.

[White Borders]

Don Newcombe

Win–Loss record 149–90
Earned run average 3.56
Strikeouts 1,129

Career highlights and awards
4× All-Star selection (1949, 1950, 1951, 1955)
World Series champion (1955)
1956 NL MVP
1956 Cy Young Award
1949 NL Rookie of the Year
1956 NL TSN Pitcher of the Year

Plus he was a pretty darn good hitter.

Unfortunaley, I think the two years he was away from basebll hurt is career stats too much.

[FrankWakefield]

JohnnyHarmonica, if I were assembling a team of ballplayers of all eras, to play ONE game, a game that had to be won, I think I'd want Pete Rose on that team. His quote, "I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball.", was one memorable comment, and I think he meant it. A fierce competitor. I'd want him on the team if I had to win one game. He has no place in the Hall. Read The Fix is In. After you've read that, the entire book, so you get the background of how the leagues were formed and the focus on rooting gambling out of the game during the game's infancy, then see if you can offer a sensible reason for Pete going in.

[danc]

I think the Hall is in shambles to be honest with you as it is now recognizing people it didn't recognize years before. Watered down. I do not think any of the steroid generation should get in (or Blyleven), but they should start rewarding the characters whose past discretions were an issue, like Rose and Jackson...and if Mazeroski is inducted, let's throw the Maris family a bone, since baseball took away his honest record.

Marvin Miller
Pete Browning (can't wait to see the Coach's Corner signatures of Browning, who couldn't write his name)
Pete Rose
Gil Hodges
Roger Maris
Harry Stovey
Joe Jackson
Chris Von Der Ahe

DanC

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by danc

Pete Browning (can't wait to see the Coach's Corner signatures of Browning, who couldn't write his name)

He could. He once angrily sent his signature to a newspaper as proof of his "literacy". Granted, Joe Jackson could do a better job, but you can still make out the full name. It's almost certain that no holographic material survived on Browning, however.

[Brian-Chidester]

After reading Donald Gropman's book, I can't help but lament how things went down with Happy Chandler. He seemed the most level-headed of all commissioners, with the least amount of axes to grind. His take on Shoeless Joe should have garnered greater consideration from later commissioners, as from Giamati onwards, these men have taken the path of least resistance, claiming largely that it is too old to dig up something decided upon so long ago.

What a bunch of wimps.

[Touch'EmAll]

I know he didn't play all that long. But he was the most spectacular sports figure of our generation, sorry M. Jordan. He was the most talented and gifted athlete of perhaps all-time.

If its "Fame" as in Hall of Fame you are after, then please, either Baseball or Football, or both, put in:

Mr. Bo Jackson