Pick your Top 10 Minor League Pre-War Cards

[rhettyeakley]

In no particular order:

1914 Baltimore News Babe Ruth
1910 T210-8 Joe Jackson
1922 Zeenut Jim Thorpe
1921 Tip Top Lefty Grove
1916 Zeenut Jimmy Claxton
1910 T210-6 Casey Stengel
1912 HRK Dave Bancroft
1911 Obak Cabinets Buck Weaver
1919 Zeenuts Fatty Arbuckle
1915 Zeenuts Fred McMullin

Honarable Mention:
1887-90 N172 Kid Nichols
1928 PCL Exhibits Earl Averill
1933-36 Zeenuts Joe DiMaggio (should probably be higher but I personally have never cared much for the two DiMaggio poses)

[rhettyeakley]

Tony, in regard to the 1911 Zee Bohen card there is only either one and a half or two and a half known to exist (at least that is my understanding). The half that I am talking about is a copy of the card that was trimmed around the players image (die-cut) that Lew sold a few years back. It is essentially an impossible card and I could only speculate what one would sell for should one come up for sale (a whole one that is).
-Rhett

[Epps]

Forgot about Buck's T4 and Gilmartin. I'd put that in my top ten too.

[kkkkandp]

Besides the aforementioned Kid Nichols I would include:

Jake Beckley - Saint Louis Whites
Bobby Lowe - Milwaukee Brewers
Deacon McGuire - Toronto Canucks
Orator Shafer - Des Moines Prohibitionists
George Treadway - Saint Paul Apostles, Denver Grizzlies

All five of these guys were solid players and one wound up being a HOFer.

[brianp-beme]

In specific regards as to scarcity of the 1911 Zeenut Bohen card, Mark M. hinted a while back on this board that there are plenty of PCL collectors out there (and he would have the knowledge) with extensive collections of Zeenuts that either choose not to participate on the board or never visit. The Bohen is scarce, but I have a feeling that there are more than just a handful of them out there somewhere.

Brian

[Jacklitsch]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

In specific regards as to scarcity of the 1911 Zeenut Bohen card, Mark M. hinted a while back on this board that there are plenty of PCL collectors out there (and he would have the knowledge) with extensive collections of Zeenuts that either choose not to participate on the board or never visit. The Bohen is scarce, but I have a feeling that there are more than just a handful of them out there somewhere.

Brian

Brian:

I think Mr. Macrae went a little farther with his comments regarding the Bohen. Here is his response to my post about the existence of the Bohen. Guess he told me.

"Steve,
Not to browbeat the point, or you, but the Bohen full card exists in a handfull or two Zeenut collections. The trimmed 'marionette' version that Lipset offered several years ago had no nameplate, so a complete example had to exist with which to compare the marionette. Collectors would not have known how the caption read (which is the most important part of Zeenuts). There are a number of advanced collectors that do not read this board, post scans, or 'brag' about their collections. If you really want an image, contact the California Historical Society on Mission Street in San Francisco. They have one in their collection (top trimmed, but identifiable) that they can photograph for you. It usually takes 6-8 weeks and they will charge you about $50 for the service... Mark"

[Cat]

The Zeenut '23 Waner and Zeenut '29 Gomez should be in the discussion.

[bcbgcbrcb]

Rhett:

Good job on the Grove, I forgot about that one. I'll use the Grove to replace the N172 Rusie on my Top 10 list, since the Rusie was not a minor league card.

[Exhibitman]

My personal list (what I'd like to own):

1. 1914 Baltimore Ruth
2. T210 Joe Jackson
3. T210 Casey Stengel
4. Zeenut Thorpe
5. Pebble Beach DiMaggio
6. 1918 Zeenut Lefty O'Doul
7. Zeenut Heilmann
8. Tip Top Grove
9. Zeenut Arbuckle
10. Mothers Cookies Chuck Connors