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Old 02-09-2010, 07:33 AM
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In my opinion, the condition of items that are as scarce as this one makes less of an impact because someone looking to own a presentable example would be happy just to see any come up for sale/auction and probably would not hold out on spending serious money while waiting for a better condition copy. On the other hand, a T206 Cobb card or something like that, condition makes all of the difference in the world regarding its price point.
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:55 AM
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In my opinion, the condition of items that are as scarce as this one makes less of an impact because someone looking to own a presentable example would be happy just to see any come up for sale/auction and probably would not hold out on spending serious money while waiting for a better condition copy. On the other hand, a T206 Cobb card or something like that, condition makes all of the difference in the world regarding its price point.

I tend to agree about super rare items. This item doesn't fall into that category, imo. I have seen at least 5-10 for sale in the last 14 yrs.....No, it's not common, but in the next few years you will see another. I can't say that for many of the items we collect. best regards
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I think you are right, more examples of this card will almost certainly come up for sale in the coming years (although many collectors like myself don't always have the patience to wait years). Part of the scarcity component of this "card" is that collectors looking for a Candy Cummings career contemporary "card" really have this one option only, to me this overrides the factor of how many of these examples may exist, around 10 or so would be my best guess as well.
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Leon--The photo has some issue (maybe a development issue) in the upper left but it looks better in person and the Cummings image is very clear. The reason the UL issue stands out is because the rest of the photo is amazingly sharp. There is no repair or any other issue that I could tell.
BTW, I'll buy all the copies that you can find that look like this at the lot's final price.

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Leon- I believe the Hartford CdV you owned in SGC 80 sold at auction for about 20K in 2007. I think 10-15K for one of these is about right. I also believe that most of the ones that have been auctioned or sold in the past 10years are the same CdVs being recycled, with only about a half dozen known.
Jay- Were you the lucky winner? If not, someone else got a good deal.
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Leon- my first reaction when I saw the light area was that it was glare from shooting the image. Since it is in fact on the photo it would have some impact, but I still think the winner got it at a fair price.
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I think this one is worth $4,287.90
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I guess 'OldJudge' was the buyer. Seems like a good deal to me. It could sell for $7-$10,000. My only concern is that it seems that more of these 19th C. team cards are turning up. There are certainly more than 3 or 4 known and the big auction houses aren't going to be able to hype them as much.

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There are certainly more than 3 or 4 known and the big auction houses aren't going to be able to hype them as much.
They'll hype them the same, it just won't be as accurate as it once was thought to be.
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Leon- I believe the Hartford CdV you owned in SGC 80 sold at auction for about 20K in 2007. I think 10-15K for one of these is about right. I also believe that most of the ones that have been auctioned or sold in the past 10years are the same CdVs being recycled, with only about a half dozen known.
Jay- Were you the lucky winner? If not, someone else got a good deal.
You are right Gary...I don't remember it going for that much but maybe I had sold it first and then it got consigned. I don't remember getting that much for it myself.
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