T206 "Brown" Old Mill Southern League Back...Legit?

[JerryTotino]

Ted,

The 2 examples I once owned were Thornton and Revelle. I think there are 2 or 3 known examples of a Revelle Brown Old Mill.

I am also aware of a Sid Smith (Atlanta).



Rob,

I think the Brown Old Mills were either an error or experiment. As stated in an earlier post they appear to be all hand cut. I'm not sure how to classify a T206 back that might never have actually been officially issued.

Jerry

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by JerryTotino

Ted,

I think the Brown Old Mills were either an error or experiment. As stated in an earlier post they appear to be all hand cut. I'm not sure how to classify a T206 back that might never have actually been officially issued.

Jerry

Do the backs of the brown and blacks match up if superimposed one over the other? I assume they would. That could indicate the end of a Brown Hindu run occurred and then the next batch was started to kill off some ink or they ran a few for a test before they used them for scrap. If sheets were stacked and moved, even a short distance, it would make sense to use scrap sheets on the top and bottom of each stack to prevent damage to the cards meant to be cut and inserted into the packs, a "scrap sandwich" if you will. I really wonder if that's where a lot of the handcut oddities come from, not just in T206 but even Topps stuff in the 60's.

[frohme]

The same brown-back phenomenon happens with the T207s as well, though there is not a known Hindu-like suspect to blame for print-run overlaps. Various board members have found and shown them over the last few years.

As with the comments on the OMS browns, the print is very obviously different in person, and seem not to be related to fading in any way. The Schaefer below is the best scan of that to me. While that card is obviously hand-cut, the Gardner below it is apparently not.

[tedzan]

Identified here are the 5 brown OLD MILL's, so far accounted for.

Bay
Bernhard
Breitenstein
Carey
Coles
Cranston
Ellam.........................Brown OLD MILL
Foster
Fritz
Greminger
Guiheen
Helm.........................Brown OLD MILL
Hickman
Hooker
Howard
Jordan
Kiernan
Lafitte
Lipe
Manion
McCauley
Molesworth
Mullaney
Otey
Paige
Perdue
Persons
Reagan
Revelle.......................Brown OLD MILL
Ryan
Shaughnessy
Smith (Atlanta)............Brown OLD MILL
Thornton.....................Brown OLD MILL
Violat

How about it guys, any more of these out there ?


TED Z

[cfc1909]

you can add Paige and Bernhard

[tedzan]

Thanks Jim

Identified here are the 7 brown OLD MILL's, so far accounted for.

Bay
Bernhard....................Brown OLD MILL
Breitenstein
Carey
Coles
Cranston
Ellam.........................Brown OLD MILL
Foster
Fritz
Greminger
Guiheen
Helm.........................Brown OLD MILL
Hickman
Hooker
Howard
Jordan
Kiernan
Lafitte
Lipe
Manion
McCauley
Molesworth
Mullaney
Otey
Paige.........................Brown OLD MILL
Perdue
Persons
Reagan
Revelle.......................Brown OLD MILL
Ryan
Shaughnessy
Smith (Atlanta)............Brown OLD MILL
Thornton....................Brown OLD MILL
Violat

How about it guys, any more of these out there ?


TED Z

[rebelsart]

I used to own these T206 with brown Old Mill backs:
Thornton (same one Jerry used to own).
Kiernan

Those are the only two that I can remember. Both are from nearly 10 years ago.

Art M.