Rogue REA employee on eBay?

[benchod]

With all due repect to Rob Lifson this isn't an isloated event with Dean using questionable judgement. In fact I have had a personal experience involving Dean on Ebay and found him to be an underhanded, immoral, backstabbing liar. Ask me how I really feel about him.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by benchod

With all due repect to Rob Lifson this isn't an isloated event with Dean using questionable judgement. In fact I have had a personal experience involving Dean on Ebay and found him to be an underhanded, immoral, backstabbing liar. Ask me how I really feel about him.

The facts underlying these feelings?

[benchod]

Sure Peter
In 2004 I won a KBats team card on ebay.
I paid immediately after the auction with paypal.

Hobbyguynj (Faragi) emailed me saying he was the underbidder and wanted to know if I wanted to sell him the card. I told him no thanks. He then emailed me saying he heard from the seller that I couldn't pay for the card and he was going to send payment. This obviously was all b.s. as I had already paid. He also emailed the seller telling him I wasn't going to pay.

Fortunately the seller was an upright person and I have the card in my collection. It just amazes me how low a person will stoop for a piece of cardboard or for money

[Peter_Spaeth]

So both of these IDs are Dean's and he is "buying" his own cards and leaving feedback for himself?

[benchod]

Sorry Perter the beginning of the thread was too convoluted for me to follow but when I saw Faragi's name I wanted the board to know what kind of person they are dealing with. Hobbyguynj is Dean Faragi and I have saved the emails I received from him

[HRBAKER]

Lord, I love this hobby.

[Wesley]

Maybe that was a one time incident as well.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Lord, I love this hobby.

Hobby? I thought this was a reality show...

[botn]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So both of these IDs are Dean's and he is "buying" his own cards and leaving feedback for himself?

Not sure. We know based on feedback which was left for hobbyguynj, in which he was addressed as Dean and now an account Craig that hobbyguynj is Dean. I am unclear whether or not smgsmg1968 is also Dean. Rob L has posted saying there was absolutely no shill bidding on ebay involving Dean and he has emailed Jim saying the same thing. So who is smgsmg1968? Maybe David, who started this post can come back out from hiding and tell us one way or another if smgsmg1968 is also Dean.

Then I would like to know why Rob would come on here and post there was no shill bidding prior to fully investigating. Dean has put Rob in a bad spot.

[Peter_Spaeth]

The C56 Moran (no pun intended) was sold by smgsmg1968 (Dean responds to emails at this account) and the winning bidder was none other then hobbyguynj if you are still following along with this tangled web.

[botn]

Yeah I read that but I wanted to make sure as Rob L was adamant that no shill bidding was involved and stated so 3 times, at least. So what info does Rob have or what info was he relying on when he made that pronouncement?

[Matt]

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The C56 Moran (no pun intended) was sold by smgsmg1968 (Dean responds to emails at this account) and the winning bidder was none other then hobbyguynj if you are still following along with this tangled web.

David will have to explain his initial statement that Dean responds to emails at the smgsmg1968 account.

Rob was pretty adamant (and convincing) that Dean's account is hobbyguynj and smgsmg1968 is someone else. (Rob knows who it is, and used his first name in emailing me.)

The Cardtarget explanation is believable, at least to me. Dean used to own the C56 Moran card AND the M116 Clarke card. Dean sent both in to PSA, hence they are on the same submission. Dean subsequently sold Moran to smgsmg1968 in a private sale. He also sold the Clarke on Ebay.

At a later date, smgsmg1968 decided to sell the Moran. It was less than Dean had sold it for, so he was a bidder to buy it back. He did not win this card, but they have had other deals together, both on and off Ebay, and therefore there is some feedback between them.

I'm still in the camp that doesn't see this reflecting on REA, but I realize that others can be more skeptical. What a mess for a small issue.

[yomass]

So as a result of "blowing the whistle" on this, 1) the set registry guy doesn't get the cards he needs and wants, 2) Dean doesn't make a profit selling the cards to the registry guy and 3) the seller doesn't get a higher price by selling to Dean. Everyone is worse off.

It is hard to argue that Dean has a moral obligation to let the registry guy know the cards are on eBay without compensation. The opportunity for profit gave him an incentive him to take action that would make everyone better off. I really don't see a problem here.

It is nice of Rob to apologize, but I don't see why.

[teetwoohsix]

Sounds like all of this could've been avoided had Dean offered to buy the cards back from his friend outside of eBay.

I don't feel Rob needs to appologize for anything,he had nothing to do with this,other than being a nice enough guy to employ Dean.

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

Sounds like all of this could've been avoided had Dean offered to buy the cards back from his friend outside of eBay.

I couldn't agree more and it's perplexing why Ebay would be in the middle of the transaction between Scott and Dean.