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Old 03-17-2010, 08:48 PM
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rumour has it Ty Cobb was a bad racist and an arrogant, ignorant ass....

I too, as a Jays fan, was so disappointed in Robbie Alomar, he used to be my fav Jay at the time.
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The way Ben Chapman treated Jackie Robinson was the embodiment of thoughtless racism as it prevailed in the U.S. in those days. Pinky Higgins was no screaming hell as a human being either. Steve Carlton broke his silence with the press after he retired to share his opinions about Jews vis a vis The Elders of Zion. A regular Hall of Fame Asshole. There have probably been many others whose attitudes were contemptible and unforgivable, even in the context of their times. Would I collect their cards? I have an A&G Anson and some Cobbs and I still sleep OK. Why not a Goudey Chapman or a Play Ball Higgins? They're all part of the story of America and of baseball.
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The way Ben Chapman treated Jackie Robinson was the embodiment of thoughtless racism as it prevailed in the U.S. in those days. Pinky Higgins was no screaming hell as a human being either. Steve Carlton broke his silence with the press after he retired to share his opinions about Jews vis a vis The Elders of Zion. A regular Hall of Fame Asshole. There have probably been many others whose attitudes were contemptible and unforgivable, even in the context of their times. Would I collect their cards? I have an A&G Anson and some Cobbs and I still sleep OK. Why not a Goudey Chapman or a Play Ball Higgins? They're all part of the story of America and of baseball.
Well said David. See you at the Baltimore National !!!
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rumour has it Ty Cobb was a bad racist and an arrogant, ignorant ass....
Later in life, Ty Cobb also set up an educational foundation that mostly gave college scholarships to poor African Americans in Georgia. I think he really transformed over the years. I believe that foundation still exists today. Most of the money came from his investments in Coca Cola that made him a very wealthy man.
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Later in life, Ty Cobb also set up an educational foundation that mostly gave college scholarships to poor African Americans in Georgia. I think he really transformed over the years. I believe that foundation still exists today
Jim, there is also a hospital in Cobb's hometown of Royston GA that treats anyone in need.
Its named after him and by the lobby is a Ty Cobb museum
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I see nothing wrong with collecting items of bad or ambiguous people-- Benedict Arnold, William Sherman, Jesse James, Al Capone--, though I would draw the line at serial killers.

If you read their bios, a number of the iconic Old West outlaws were borderline serial killers. Same could be said for many of the celebrated Depression Era gangsters.

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