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Old 03-25-2010, 08:51 PM
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Guys, let me ask your opinion. Chicago206 emailed me wanting a card. Minutes before receiving his email I received another from a collector who asked to hold it for a few moments until he finished something he was in the middle of. I agreed and then proceeded to email Chicago206 back to inform him of this. Within 20 minutes the collector I was holding the card for took it, but now i'm receiving PM's about how I handle business and then he post's this. I would have done the same for him or anyone else that requested such a thing.
Tell me, would anyone else of handled this differently?
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Old 03-25-2010, 08:54 PM
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Guys, let me ask your opinion. Chicago206 emailed me wanting a card. Minutes before receiving his email I received another from a collector who asked to hold it for a few moments until he finished something he was in the middle of. I agreed and then proceeded to email Chicago206 back to inform him of this. Within 20 minutes the collector I was holding the card for took it, but now i'm receiving PM's about how I handle business and then he post's this. I would have done the same for him or anyone else that requested such a thing.
Tell me, would anyone else of handled this differently?
Then please hold all of your T206's for a lil bit for me....i'll let you know what I want at MY convienence.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:11 PM
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Great website, Tony. Best of luck!

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Old 03-25-2010, 09:14 PM
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Chicago: I just had a look at all your recent posts. It seems like all you do is get into dust-ups on the BST and now with Tony. Give it a rest, willya? Tony is a good guy. He's been on-line here for at least few years and is a straight-up contributor to the forum. I have done several deals with him on the BST and each time it was a cordial transaction. I even had the pleasure of meeting Tony in person a few weeks ago and found him to be a gentleman, mellow in demeanor, and certainly not some shifty-eyed card huckster. Why you have to come to Tony's "Grand Opening" thread and pee on his leg is a wonder to me.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:18 PM
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Oh, yeah. Tony, great website indeed. Love the Rogues Gallery of Johnson, Walsh, Baker and Collins, and appreciate the honest size back scans, too. Good luck with it.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:21 PM
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Chicago: I just had a look at all your recent posts. It seems like all you do is get into dust-ups on the BST and now with Tony. Give it a rest, willya? Tony is a good guy. He's been on-line here for at least few years and is a straight-up contributor to the forum. I have done several deals with him on the BST and each time it was a cordial transaction. I even had the pleasure of meeting Tony in person a few weeks ago and found him to be a gentleman, mellow in demeanor, and certainly not some shifty-eyed card huckster. Why you have to come to Tony's "Grand Opening" thread and pee on his leg is a wonder to me.


All I do is get into "dust-ups" on the BST? This is my 2nd bad experience. The 1st time was with a seller who gave me a final price on an item with shipping (basically it was sold to me) only to email me a few minutes later to tell me it was no longer available....hmmm, wonder what happened there!

In this instance, the seller opens a new website....I go out of my way to take a look....then out of my way to register...then out of my way to indicate i'd like to buy a card. What do I get in response? The seller says hes holding it pending another forum member's decision. I have every right to be frustrated. Had Tony told me the card was already sold, oh well. But to tell me hes waiting on a reply from a POTENTIAL buyer seems unacceptable when im ready to send good funds. Certainly not the end of the world by any means, but a clear indication of poor business practice in my eyes. If that the way Tony wants to run his BST, im ok with that. But I wonder if he put the rest of the T206 cards on "hold" for me per my request. I need to decide if I want to buy any!
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:31 PM
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Hey Tony
Very nice site, I plan to check it out regularly.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:38 PM
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Chicago,
You need to chill out. Somebody else committed to the card before you. Instead of blumbering around like a bull in a china shop on this website, since you are new here, why don't you just cool off and soak things in a bit. I have known Tony for several years and he is a fair, honest, and very kind hobby friend. You are completely out of line to whine because you noticed a card after it sold.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:43 PM
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You need to chill out. Somebody else committed to the card before you. Instead of blumbering around like a bull in a china shop on this website, since you are new here, why don't you just cool off and soak things in a bit. I have known Tony for several years and he is a fair, honest, and very kind hobby friend. You are completely out of line to whine because you noticed a card after it sold.
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We obviously have differing defenitions of the word "commited". To me, that means "where do I send my payment", NOT "i'll get back to you when I decide if I want the card".
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:43 PM
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Tony,
Great looking site. Nice selection.
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But to tell me hes waiting on a reply from a POTENTIAL buyer seems unacceptable when im ready to send good funds.
To a person who e-mailed him before you. Darn that SHADY first come, first serve policy!
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Best of luck, Tony.
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Old 03-26-2010, 07:10 AM
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hey tony,
great site!! i looked the other day and i can see an alternative to the other
sit(E). as far as that card sale goes, FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED that's that!
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Old 03-26-2010, 11:25 AM
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I have a solution for this whole problem.

Although Tony has a great site, I think the problems it has created should be grounds for shutting down the site and having Tony banned. How darn he decide who he wants to sell his cards to.

At what point do you not realize that when I guy gets all responses in his favor to yours that you need to drop it and move on.

Tony has been around a long time and well respected and now has added a great new site I am jealous of. Now if all these great words about Tony get me 25% off that would be great.


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Old 03-26-2010, 01:26 PM
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Tony,
Great job putting the site together. Best of luck.
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Old 03-26-2010, 02:40 PM
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Just completed a transaction for a card. Tony seems to be well respected and from our dealing, deservedly so. Great site and best of luck!
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:16 PM
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Nice site Tony. I have it bookmarked.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:50 PM
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Guys, let me ask your opinion. Chicago206 emailed me wanting a card. Minutes before receiving his email I received another from a collector who asked to hold it for a few moments until he finished something he was in the middle of. I agreed and then proceeded to email Chicago206 back to inform him of this. Within 20 minutes the collector I was holding the card for took it, but now i'm receiving PM's about how I handle business and then he post's this. I would have done the same for him or anyone else that requested such a thing.
Tell me, would anyone else of handled this differently?

Tony -

If I had anything for sale - and someone contacted me.... I would give them a reasonable amount of time to complete the deal. For me - a reasonable amount of time is 1 day.... and I would let that 'first contact' know the time frame.

If someone else comes into the picture - they would have to wait until the reasonable amount of time has expired.

People have lives.... they go to dinner, spend time with family, do other things besides stay by a computer..... giving a person time to complete a transaction is just plain common courtesy in my opinion.

You handled the situation exactly right IMO.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:58 PM
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Hi Tony,

Great website - congrats!

My 2 cents on this little controversy...I have done flawless deals with Tony and I trust him as highly as anyone in this hobby. He and I have exchanged numerous messages and I find him to be a genuinely nice fellow.

And then there is Chicago206. I don't know him, but I agree with other posters that the "dust ups" don't help the image. The one that hasn't been mentioned was the one where Chicago206 solicited anyone to sell him a scarce back and "name your price". When a long-time member posted a card and named his price, Chicago206 posted in the public thread and called the seller out on his asking price. Classless and not cool. You send the guy a PM and thank him for his offer to sell, but you don't want to pay his price. You can either negotiate via PM, or move on. These things seem like basic common sense and manners to me...

But back to the point - Tony is a great guy with a great new website...deal with confidence!

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tony--cool site, but you need to put up more stuff i need.

jimb--good idea...does the site engine have an auto-ignore feature on new registrants for a number of months?

edit: sorry to sidetrack your thread tony but just want to point out the ignore feature of the website under the "user cp"...hopefully less pettiness and fights (unless you like that sort of stuff)



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And they said I was a problem on the BST... at least thiis thread will let potential sellers know pain in the a$$ buyers arent just on eBay!
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And they said I was a problem on the BST... at least thiis thread will let potential sellers know pain in the a$$ buyers arent just on eBay!



I have 770 positive transactions on ebay over a 5 year span. My DSR's are 4.9, 5.0, 5.0, and 4.8. I have never once asked for a refund, and have only had to issue 2 refunds in those 5 years. I guess im a "pain in the ass" because I publicly state factual circumstances regarding a failed transaction between myself and a seller here.


Edited to add: I recently bought a $45 card from a seller on this forum. After he received the money, 3 weeks went by with nothing. I told the seller about this, and he offered an apology AND a refund as he couldnt locate the DEL CONF slip. I responded that I didnt care about the money and we should wait and see what happens. A week later I got the card. This is a true story. I had a golden opportunity to be a "pain in the ass", but thats not me. Im very fair, and honest. And for the most part extremely logical.

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Logic doesnt exist in thinking that because you decided you wanted to buy a card, you automatically trump another potential buyer who did EMAIL first, and ask for a FEW MINUTES to make his decision. Its obvious to me that 3-2count is more concerned with customer service that making a quick buck, which is hard to find just about anywhere these days.
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And they said I was a problem on the BST... at least thiis thread will let potential sellers know pain in the a$$ buyers arent just on eBay!
Uh...that's because you were.
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Tony Nice site, very well done.
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edit: sorry to sidetrack your thread tony but just want to point out the ignore feature of the website under the "user cp"...hopefully less pettiness and fights (unless you like that sort of stuff)

holy cow! thanks Quan.

I didn't know we had the ignore feature.

I am definitely going to start using it.
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