T206 Red Cobb SGC 60/Altered? on eBay

[Clark7781]

Do you have a link or something?

[jp1216]

Ebay - Red Cobb SGC link

[M's_Fan]

It is a beautiful card, despite the corner in question. If it measures up to par, I'm not surprised it got a 60.

[calvindog]

Kind of a hilarious listing. It sounds like the seller has a major axe to grind with SGC and is selling the card solely to bash SGC. After all, the card normally sells for much less than the BIN price he has listed; so if the card is advertised as altered wouldn't it be worth less than the average selling price instead of 30% MORE? Finally, the card was just recently bought from a B & L auction. Perhaps Leon or Scott can talk about the provenance of the card.

[Matt]

Jeff - I was thinking similarly - maybe he's trying to use the listing to leverage a buyback from SGC; that would explain the high BIN.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Perhaps the focus should be not on the seller's motive for giving such a candid description, but on how the corner he describes could have become that way in the absence of an alteration. One suspects if it were a PSA card at issue there would be much more discussion of the merits.

[calvindog]

Well, considering that this thread exists I would say it's hard to complain that there is not a full discussion about this card.

It's pretty clear that the seller is off the rails a bit based on his listing and is trying to get SGC's attention because he wasn't satisfied with the response. To suggest that the seller is being "candid" here for altruistic reasons is just false. He's selling it for far more than it's worth as an SGC 60 and listing it as altered. He knows full well that the card will not get a bite at that price (or even half the price now). He bought the card for the very price he's selling it for -- clearly with the intention of trying to bump it to the higher grade. Why else would he buy the card for 30% more than it normally sells for in this grade?

I can't say that I fault the seller in the sense that if I was pissed at SGC or PSA with regard to their handling of such an issue I would probably do the same silly thing, i.e. cutting off my nose to spite my face type of thing. After all, the listing has gotten some attention.

And finally, Leon and Scott sold the card -- maybe one of them submitted it to SGC?

[Peter_Spaeth]

The only discussion of the merits so far is the one comment that it looked possibly trimmed. I don't have an opinion about that although it does look a tad short, but as I understand the seller's description of the corner, I can't fathom how it could be the result of natural wear. If someone more expert could comment that would be helpful.