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Old 04-04-2010, 12:29 PM
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It is very difficult to tell this week which member of the Net54 community is ruining the hobby the most.

I vote Jim VB, but that's just me.

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Old 04-04-2010, 12:38 PM
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I used a Just So tobacco card to light a cigar the other night, so I'd like to think for that fleeting moment I was ruining the hobby the most.
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Old 04-04-2010, 12:41 PM
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Wait, this is a hobby?

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Old 04-04-2010, 12:45 PM
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SteveF/Ladder7 - is right. I should not have complained about the scan
being lifted. The rest of the listing I do think is wrong to just copy and paste
especially when I was selling another of the identical item at that time.
It was not a card, it was a book - the description was 100+ words and I
still maintain it was a disrespectful move.
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Old 04-04-2010, 12:55 PM
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I feel the need to add another comment . I don't believe Jamie was out to scam anyone. It was more of a deceit by omission, from what has been shown. regards
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Old 04-04-2010, 02:24 PM
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Now that I have had time to calm down and emotion is out of the way..
I will say I am sorry to Chicago for making him feel he was guarenteed the card.. unless in hand nothing is guarenteed and that is my error..

Just dont question my motives.. I am a man of my word... if I won the auction the card would have went to chicago at 1300..

if I want an auction buddy I should have posted on the main board.. lesson learned..


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Old 04-04-2010, 02:36 PM
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Hi Al,
I agree.... But his real name is Donna Chang....

Be well Brian

PS I only read the last 2 pages....
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Old 04-04-2010, 02:39 PM
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if I want an auction buddy I should have posted on the main board.. lesson learned..
Jamie - main board or BST - the issue wasn't the location of the post, but that you were selling a card that you didn't own; the lesson is when you're looking for an auction partner, just say so.
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Old 04-04-2010, 02:43 PM
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You also turned a "first $1000 gets it" into a vague free-for-all with higher offers accepted.
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Old 04-04-2010, 03:27 PM
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Now that I have had time to calm down and emotion is out of the way..
I will say I am sorry to Chicago for making him feel he was guarenteed the card.. unless in hand nothing is guarenteed and that is my error..

Just dont question my motives.. I am a man of my word... if I won the auction the card would have went to chicago at 1300..

if I want an auction buddy I should have posted on the main board.. lesson learned..

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Old 04-04-2010, 04:08 PM
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not sure what you trying to say Joe.. that I am a liar??.. I dont even know who the hell you are .. your not invloved in this at all...and your calling me a liar?

I am done with this thread... and being publicly hung... for a small incident...

I would love to challenge someone to come forward with 1 bad experiance where money was exchanged and when I was involved on either the buying or selling side. When I take someones money, they get what they paid for, and they get my money for things that I buy from them, 100% of the time.

I made the 520 set without 1 complaint and sold it without 1 complaint. I have been buying/selling T206s for years without 1 complaint....my apology was already issued...

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Old 04-04-2010, 02:18 PM
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I used a Just So tobacco card to light a cigar the other night, so I'd like to think for that fleeting moment I was ruining the hobby the most.
Only if it was a cheap cigar. If it was something really good, then Rob and JVB are still out front.

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Old 04-04-2010, 12:40 PM
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It is very difficult to tell this week which member of the Net54 community is ruining the hobby the most.

I vote Jim VB, but that's just me.

-Al
You're not paying attention. Rob D., is ruining the hobby. I, am ruining all of humanity!

Both of us are too busy to spend time ruining a small message board community. (We are taking applications for henchmen, however!)
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Old 04-04-2010, 01:22 PM
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You're not paying attention. Rob D., is ruining the hobby. I, am ruining all of humanity!

Both of us are too busy to spend time ruining a small message board community. (We are taking applications for henchmen, however!)
Rob D and Jim VB are the weapons of mass destruction in both our hobby and all of humanity. Me? I'm just an honest, hard-working guy that gets taken advantage of by all of you wheeler-dealer types.
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Old 04-04-2010, 01:38 PM
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Rob D and Jim VB are the weapons of mass destruction in both our hobby and all of humanity. Me? I'm just an honest, hard-working guy that gets taken advantage of by all of you wheeler-dealer types.
Apparently you're expanding your collection to include thank-you e-mails and PMs.
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Both of us are too busy to spend time ruining a small message board community. (We are taking applications for henchmen, however!)
Do you have a benefits package in place?
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Old 04-04-2010, 06:20 PM
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Do you have a benefits package in place?


Absolutely!


#1 - A lifetime subscription to the online edition of a major metropolitan newspaper.

#2 - There won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.

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Old 04-04-2010, 06:28 PM
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Deathbed? Are you wishing for someone's demise?

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Old 04-04-2010, 08:27 PM
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Just had a chance to read this thread and feel that I should add that I e-mailed Jamie on Friday about this card and said I was interested if it was still available. He responded within a few minutes that the "top offer is $1300" and that he would send a scan the next day, to which I replied that I was interested. There was no mention that the card was not in hand and I found it a bit odd that it had originally been advertised at $1000. I figured that there was a lot of interest so he began taking offers above that price. I was strongly considering making an offer myself depending on how the scan looked but I never received it so assumed that it had been sold. Not sure how this affects anything, if at all, but as a frequent BST user, I just wanted to make this information available to the board.

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Old 04-04-2010, 08:35 PM
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I usually lurk, but felt compelled to chime in on this one.

I'm not taking sides in this particular dispute. Regardless of whether or not "Chicago" is in the right or not, or whether Jamie is in the right or not, this whole situation could have been handled privately (or semi-privately).

As a result, reputations for both parties in the eyes of their fellow collectors have likely been downgraded.

On a positive note, I will say this -- Jamie bought over 100 T-206s from me in multiple transactions back in 2008 when he was working on his set. Every transaction went off without incident. Jamie was a good buyer - he paid quickly, and we exchanged e-mails and scans so that there would be no misunderstandings when the cards and money were exchanged.

What did we all learn? Be clear with your communications. Be as honest and as accurate as possible when posting items for sale. Be cautious and have all of the information you feel you should have before committing any money to a seller. Caveat emptor.

Like them or not, their reputations did not deserve to be dragged through the mud in this fashion. Everyone makes mistakes (small ones or large ones). Everyone can learn from mistakes. Hopefully both parties will have the opportunity to show their fellow collectors that they are deserving of their business and hobby friendship.

Mike

PS: If you don't agree with me, fine. As I lurk, I probably won't see or respond to your post. Happy Collecting!
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