A word of caution

[JP]

If I stopped using Paypal, I'd also have to stop using eBay. I'm willing to circumvent a hole in their system to my advantage, and they in turn make plenty of money off of me. The alternative is that they make nothing at all... No guilt for me, as it appears is also the case with the large majority here, as almost every purchase I've made on BST has had the seller requesting the gift option. If it is the word "gift" that bothers you, you can also choose "payment owed" under the personal tab and do the same fee-less transaction. Buying and selling baseball cards is not a business for me at all...all ends up in cards, never cash.

Why is it that many people here feel they can throw stones? No one here has lied on an application, cheated on their taxes, stolen cable, downloaded movies or music, broken the speed limit, drank underage, or blown up a busfull of nuns? We're all human. We all have the right to draw whatever lines we are comfortable with. I have NEVER in my life been dishonest in any way, shape or form when dealing with an individual entity. To me that is far worse than taken advantage of a system a business has put in place...To each their own!

[JP]

Also of note...I did an echeck instead of the gift option on the $6700. I avoided fees in that scenario as well, abiding by ALL of Paypal's rules. From now on I'll all ask sellers to eat the 3% and see how many are willing to do that...

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by JP

No one here has lied on an application, cheated on their taxes, stolen cable, downloaded movies or music, broken the speed limit, drank underage, or blown up a busfull of nuns? We're all human. We all have the right to draw whatever lines we are comfortable with.

No one here has lied on an application - Never

cheated on their taxes, - Never

stolen cable - Never

downloaded movies or music - Never

broken the speed limit - Never (OK, maybe a few times)

or blown up a busfull of nuns - Never (But 12 years of Catholic Schools. The thought has crossed my mind.)

drank underage - Guilty (But not in close to 40 years.)

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by jp

we all have the right to draw whatever lines we are comfortable with.

lol!

[bigtrain]

Does a station wagon full of nuns count?

[wonkaticket]

Rear ended an mini-van full of midgets once does that count for like half credit or something?

[JP]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Rear ended an mini-van full of midgets once does that count for like half credit or something?

Were the midgets also nuns? Then, still no.

But if it was the old Subaru that used to explode on rear impact, then yes.

[JP]

In retrospect, maybe not even worth continuing this argument....though I'm sure of my list I've probably done less of then than most anyone here. (haven't had as much fun as most) I'll officially ungracefully exit stage left. No point in trying to argue something that not anyone will ever completely agree upon...I'll try to use paypal echeck from now on so there will be no injured parties.

And, no, it must be AT LEAST a bus full of nuns...volkswagon buses don't count.

[FUBAR]

Originally Posted by JP

Why is it that many people here feel they can throw stones? No one here has lied on an application, cheated on their taxes, stolen cable, downloaded movies or music, broken the speed limit, drank underage, or blown up a busfull of nuns?

lied on an application- check
taxes- havent done this one, too scared too
stolen cable- i dont have a cable bill but have basic cable
movies and music... i plead the fifth but i have 20,000 mp3s and 700 dvds
broken the speed limit... only when i go down hill ;o)
drank underage or blown up nuns... does drinking underage and getting blown by nuns count? lol j/k it was only one nun!

[Griffins]

It was the Pinto that exploded on rear impact. Although a Subaru might also, will have to test the theory next time I see an Outback full on nuns.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Griffins

It was the Pinto that exploded on rear impact. Although a Subaru might also, will have to test the theory next time I see an Outback full on nuns.

My very first car was a 1971 Pinto. It had the gas tank that would blow up on impact. My brother totalled it when I was in bootcamp. Probably the best thing he ever did for me.

[jmk59]

nm ...

I'm right with Mr. JVB on this one. Hard to see how it's ok to draw one's own lines when it comes to being dishonest in transactions with others.

J

[Edwolf1963]

On PayPal, for what it's worth - instead of "Gift" use the "Payment Owed" option. Seller still gets the full amount and it's not a lie (you're making a payment and/or are owed payment for the goods you sold). Probably still not protected, but I feel a good level of trust honoring a request for (or asking for) "gift" or "payment owed" from the Net54 contingent.

I think PayPal is more focused on drawing from funds you have with them, the float (which is why the 3-4 business days to dump funds into your back account) and/or drawing directly from your bank account. They really only try to push back on you to not use the CC option (which is why you can never default to that). They don't make a lot on service fees - if it were that big of a deal to them, they wouldn't offer the many "personal" options they do and/or limit the number of those you can do.

[bigtrain]

I had a green '71 Pinto hatchback. Once had 12 people in it. Got pulled over for not signalling a turn. Kids piled out like a clown car. Cop couldn't stop laughing. Great memories, no explosion.