What We Have Learned About Ty Cobbs With a Ty Cobb Back

[Jim VB]

I go away for a few days and return to find that Chicago206 has continued his whirlwind, friend making, tour of Net54.

Since Marshall Barkman III, has anyone alienated more people in a shorter time span?

[lsutigers1973]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

I go away for a few days and return to find that Chicago206 has continued his whirlwind, friend making, tour of Net54.

Since Marshall Barkman III, has anyone alienated more people in a shorter time span?

Get used to it. He does it every where he goes.

[Griffins]

I think many of the objections (including the OP's) to inclusion of this card in the T206 set would not be voiced if this was a $100 card instead of a $40,000. one.
What next? Arguing against American Beauty's because they are narrower?

edited to say- I meant Chicago, not Jon, when stating the objection to inclusion in T206 was due to money and not substance.Apologies.

[canjond]

I, personally, don't feel the lack of additional subjects should preclude its inclusion with the T206 set. In fact, considering that that the brand is called "Ty Cobb" and the slogan "Ty Cobb King of the Smoking World," I actually would find it a little odd if any subject other than Ty Cobb would be included in the packaging. Imagine a Moose Grimshaw Ty Cobb backed card! I also think that when you take a step back and look at the T206 series as actually being 15-16 stand alone sets, all of which have been designated under the umbrella classification of T206, it's much easier to argue for its inclusion.

[bobafett72]

If you need a stiff drink I will send you something.

[sgbernard]

Ted, it was a pleasure shaking the hand of someone with 30+ years (I hope I have that right) of card collecting experience at this year's Philly show. Evcharisto polu for your many knowledgeable posts on T206s, we all stand to learn much from reading.

This is an issue of classification not personal opinion: the crucial factor of distribution puts the card, in my mind, in or out of Jefferson Burdick's ACC designation as a T206 (remember to those, ahem, who post: the T206 is an artificial category created by Burdick to describe a certain class of cards printed and issued in a similar manner in the same time). We can argue until we're blue in the face about what does and doesn't constitute our own definition, but as far as Burdick's is concerned, the fact that these ATC cards were distributed similarly puts them under his same umbrella.

Jon, that was a great call in the first post: I had missed those tobacco stains. I thought, no way he's right, but sure enough the REA card has what can only be tobacco stains and, as you point out, resemble quite clearly the polar bear staining of loose-tobacco. It's a clincher for me. I went back to other Cobb/Cobbs and found no such staining, so as far as I'm concerned this is an important new observation.

[ebrehm]

Aside from the theoretical question of whether Cobb/Cobb 'belongs' in T206, as a practical matter:

* If you are assembling a standard T206 front set (524 subjects), you don't have to worry about this card.

* If you are assembling a T206 back set, you are going to have to decide whether you need this card. I recommend getting one, just in case.

* If you are trying to obtain all possible T206 front/back combinations, you could work on that project for 500 years and never even know if you are done.

* If you are building a collection of all known Ty Cobb cards, you need this card!

[Potomac Yank]

The Mono's have a white border, should it be part of the T206 set?

If an Abbaticcio back card was found, with stains,and a white border ... would you consider it part of the T206 set?

[quinnsryche]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

I go away for a few days and return to find that Chicago206 has continued his whirlwind, friend making, tour of Net54.

Since Marshall Barkman III, has anyone alienated more people in a shorter time span?

I thought he was getting out because he didn't like this sort of bickering and arguing, yet he always seems to be at the center of it????