Red Hindu Challenge!

Chicago206 · #1 04-19-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jmk59

Hmmm. Do I want to try this? OK. I'll try it.

Chicago, it's not at all that you can't have an opinion because you haven't been around the hobby for 25 years. The problem is that you absolutely DEMAND that your opinion be counted exactly equally as those that come from much more experienced and knowledgable collectors.

If you have mysterious headaches, do you want the opinion of a doctor with 25 years specializing in all forms of research, analysis, diagnosis and treatments of mystery headaches? Or are you OK with the opinion of a freshman in a pre-med college program that is taking Biology and Algebra? Are both opinions equally reliable? If the freshman wants to argue with the experienced specialist and adamantly insist that the specialist isn't showing proper respect to his opinion, wouldn't the specialist start getting irritated at some point?

It's not that you can't have an opinion. It's that you have no respect for the fact that the opinions of some of the others properly carry more weight around here.

I don't post as much as I used to here for a variety of reasons, but I at least try to read and keep up. This kind of thing makes even that difficult sometimes.

Joann

If the 25+ year doctor insists that my head hurts because "he says so", and the freshman goes into detail the possible reasons why its hurting...then I listen to the freshman. If crotchety old 25+ year collectors tell me the Cobb/Cobb is a T206 cuz Burdick said so, well then....you get the idea.

whitehse · #2 04-19-2010, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago206

If the 25+ year doctor insists that my head hurts because "he says so", and the freshman goes into detail the possible reasons why its hurting...then I listen to the freshman. If crotchety old 25+ year collectors tell me the Cobb/Cobb is a T206 cuz Burdick said so, well then....you get the idea.

Damn..this definitely shows your lack of respect for guys who have put alot of time in this hobby far more than you ever will. Ask your questions but dont disrespect your elders.

So I assume a proby in your engine company telling the captain that he is wrong about how a fire will work its way through a home because he was taught differently in the academy will be accepted by the Captain??? I bet not. Experience trumps book knowledge and you have 3 months experience in a hobby many of us have put 30+ years into!

Just as I am sure your captain will tell the new guy you need to do the same....sit down...shut the hell up and learn something from the other guys!! But I assume this will not happen because your ego is so large that you cant just shut up and listen. I bet you thrive on all the commotion you have stirred up dont you!! throw your money around, and show everyone how well off you are!! sadly, you really have shown most of us more of yourself than we will ever care to know. Go back to coins!!

Wite3 · #3 04-20-2010, 12:08 AM

Chicago,
Just so you know...T-206s are called T-206s for the exact reason you said, "Burdick said so." Before him, they were called tobacco cards, collector cards, by their brands, or players, or teams, etc....He cataloged and gave them the designations you use. So, yes, I will listen to Burdick. Feel free to start calling them something else but your analogy is slightly flawed. Call the Cobb whatever you wish but in many people's opinions it is a T206 in the classic sense.

There is something to be said about experience and knowledge.

Joshua

Leon · #4 04-20-2010, 07:35 AM

When I was in the Corps I can assure you that a boot lieutenant wouldn't be bossing around a master seargent. Of course technically he has rank on him but it would never happen out of respect and common sense. I have only been doing this around 15 yrs, but almost every single day and in an addictive fashion (with internet the last 11-12yrs)......and I still listen to my hobby elders about things. I think it was Buckminster Fuller who said "we are the sum total of our experiences." Words to live by......

T206Collector · #5 04-20-2010, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicago206

If crotchety old 25+ year collectors tell me the Cobb/Cobb is a T206 cuz Burdick said so, well then....you get the idea.

I also support a "vacation" for this guy.

White Borders · #6 04-20-2010, 08:22 AM

I've still got my complete sets of '77 & '78 RC Cola Cans (empty) in my closet. Got a few dupes - if anyone is interested PM or email me.

Best Regards,
Craig

Rob D. · #7 04-20-2010, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by White Borders

I've still got my complete sets of '77 & '78 RC Cola Cans (empty) in my closet. Got a few dupes - if anyone is interested PM or email me.

Best Regards,
Craig

Craig,

I gotta ask: Are they opened from the top or bottom?

Tom S. · #8 04-20-2010, 08:35 AM

Folks, it seems like we have lost our focus concerning this thread. We need to get this back on track so that we can help the OP in his challenge to corner the market on Red Hindu backs.

tedzan · #9 04-20-2010, 08:54 AM

This dude thinks he is this forum's "Steve McQueen"....Well, recall "The Great Escape", where McQueen was sent to the "cooler".

It's time to relegate this dude to the "cooler" for a week and provide him a bunch of vintage BB books to read (e.g.."Ty and the
Babe", "The Year They Called Off The World Series", etc.). So he can appreciate the pictures on the FRONT of these T206's.

And, perhaps when he returns, he will have cooled down, moderated his rhetoric, and hopefully be more informed.

tonyo · #10 04-21-2010, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tedzan

provide him a bunch of vintage BB books to read (e.g.."Ty and the
Babe", "The Year They Called Off The World Series", etc.). So he can appreciate the pictures on the FRONT of these T206's.

The Celebrant.....recommended to me by this board. Reading the book was the first time I saw Christy Mathewson play and John McGraw manage.

Leon · #11 04-21-2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tedzan

So he can appreciate the pictures on the FRONT of these T206's.

And, perhaps when he returns, he will have cooled down, moderated his rhetoric, and hopefully be more informed.

Ted- I don't think it's anyone's business to tell people what to appreciate. I don't make a big deal of it but, very honestly, I think I like the backs as much as the fronts myself. That being said I also try to learn about the history of the hobby, the cards, the players etc... At the same time I will continue to moderate as little as possible, which is the way I feel boards should be run... good, bad or indifferent. IF Chicago206 keeps getting into turmoil then of course something will have to be done. I hope it doesn't get to that point. take care

E93 · #12 04-21-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago206

If the 25+ year doctor insists that my head hurts because "he says so", and the freshman goes into detail the possible reasons why its hurting...then I listen to the freshman. If crotchety old 25+ year collectors tell me the Cobb/Cobb is a T206 cuz Burdick said so, well then....you get the idea.

Your inability to follow an argument that contradicts your unfounded opinions is not evidence that your unfounded opinion is valid.

Your inability to find any humility in the face of people like Ted Z. who have forgotten more about T206s than you know is but one of the reasons people here are so frustrated with you and wish you would either go away or get a serious attitude adjustment.

One of the humbling benefits of getting a Ph.D. was the recognition of how much I did not know, even in my area of expertise. A little humility goes a long way in this world. The sooner you learn that, the happier you will be.
JimB

P.S. It is funny that you bring up an analogy with freshman students. You strike me as a lot like some of my freshman students who, due to the tidbits of new-found knowledge they have, they think they are incredibly knowledgeable. But they are utterly unaware of the vast limits to their knowledge. On this basis they make arguments with gaping holes, much like you, but due to ignorance are unaware that the holes are even there.

Jim VB · #13 04-21-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by E93

Your inability to follow an argument that contradicts your unfounded opinions is not evidence that your unfounded opinion is valid.

Your inability to find any humility in the face of people like Ted Z. who have forgotten more about T206s than you know is but one of the reasons people here are so frustrated with you and wish you would either go away or get a serious attitude adjustment.

One of the humbling benefits of getting a Ph.D. was the recognition of how much I did not know, even in my area of expertise. A little humility goes a long way in this world. The sooner you learn that, the happier you will be.
JimB

P.S. It is funny that you bring up an analogy with freshman students. You strike me as a lot like some of my freshman students who, due to the tidbits of new-found knowledge they have, they think they are incredibly knowledgeable. But they are utterly unaware of the vast limits to their knowledge. On this basis they make arguments with gaping holes, much like you, but due to ignorance are unaware that the holes are even there.

LOL!

Now Jim... I just got him calmed down on that other thread and you go light another fire here!

T206Collector · #14 04-21-2010, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by E93

You strike me as a lot like some of my freshman students who, due to the tidbits of new-found knowledge they have, they think they are incredibly knowledgeable. But they are utterly unaware of the vast limits to their knowledge. On this basis they make arguments with gaping holes, much like you, but due to ignorance are unaware that the holes are even there.

Actually that's the definition of sophomoric, not freshman! "Of, relating to, or characteristic of a sophomore; conceited and overconfident of knowledge but poorly informed and immature"

dstudeba · #15 04-21-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by E93

One of the humbling benefits of getting a Ph.D. was the recognition of how much I did not know, even in my area of expertise. A little humility goes a long way in this world. The sooner you learn that, the happier you will be.
JimB

True dat.

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Originally Posted by E93

P.S. It is funny that you bring up an analogy with freshman students. You strike me as a lot like some of my freshman students who, due to the tidbits of new-found knowledge they have, they think they are incredibly knowledgeable. But they are utterly unaware of the vast limits to their knowledge. On this basis they make arguments with gaping holes, much like you, but due to ignorance are unaware that the holes are even there.

And again.

packs · #16 04-21-2010, 03:30 PM

Didn't this guy say he was leaving like 3 weeks ago? I would be very surprised if anyone on the board would have any interest in conducting business with this guy. I know I'd rather sell my cards to someone else.

sgbernard · #17 05-02-2010, 03:19 PM

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=123311

Chicago206 · #18 05-02-2010, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sgbernard

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=123311

You dig up a thread thats been buried for 2 weeks just to point out my cards are now available for sale? Its jagoffs like you why im leaving.

Kawika · #19 05-02-2010, 04:37 PM

Write if you get work.

whitehse · #20 05-02-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago206

You dig up a thread thats been buried for 2 weeks just to point out my cards are now available for sale? Its jagoffs like you why im leaving.

We have been waiting for 2 months for this occasion to happen!!

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