Searching for a "Pirate" Cobb....show us these extremely rare "T215" cards ?

[cfc1909]

I have a few of the oriental cards as well-the baseball cards that I have seen are the Doolan-last I seen it was in a Verkman auction-I have also seen a Tinker and a Wagner bat on right at the last Philly show and I think it will be in a upcomming Goodwin. I have also seen the Pelty Scott posted but that is all I can remember besides the set in Legendary. I am sure there are a few in some old collections-it would be nice to see some more.

[rman444]

Jeff - can you guess which one has Ty Cobb on the front?

[tedzan]

The T215 cards were printed in New York City (as most of that era's T-cards), then shipped to Jersey City, NJ to
the Lorillard plant (Factory #10) to be inserted into the Red Cross tobacco products.

The "Louisiana connection" is based on a large find of these cards many years back from the Louisiana area. I
would conclude that someone from the NY-NJ area moved to Louisiana a long time ago and brought with them
a large collection of Red Cross cards.


Regarding your 2nd question......
" Additionally, who decided in the hobby to give this the T215 designation and why was it accepted? "

Of course Burdick did....and, I would assume he classified the Pirate cards as T215 since these cards have identical
fronts as the T215-1 issue.


TED Z

[tedzan]

Thanks Craig, Geno, Jon, Peter, Richard and sb1.....for sharing your Pirate cards and related items.

Hey guys, let's see some more Pirate "goodies" here.


TED Z

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by tedzan

The T215 cards were printed in New York City (as most of that era's T-cards), then shipped to Jersey City, NJ to
the Lorillard plant (Factory #10) to be inserted into the Red Cross tobacco products.

The "Louisiana connection" is based on a large find of these cards many years back from the Louisiana area. I
would conclude that someone from the NY-NJ area moved to Louisiana a long time ago and brought with them
a large collection of Red Cross cards.


Regarding your 2nd question......
" Additionally, who decided in the hobby to give this the T215 designation and why was it accepted? "

Of course Burdick did....and, I would assume he classified the Pirate cards as T215 since these cards have identical
fronts as the T215-1 issue.


TED Z

That's not in my copy of the ACC under T215!

[ullmandds]

does anyone know if all of the baseball t215 pirates are found with the same closed cigarette box back?

[tedzan]

What is not in the ACC regarding T215 cards ?

I'm not citing anything from the ACC....what I stated is what I know.


TED Z

[cfc1909]

my Pirate cards-some of the backs are different -look close

Piratebacks.jpg

Piratefronts.jpg

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by tedzan

What is not in the ACC regarding T215 cards ?

I'm not citing anything from the ACC....what I stated is what I know.


TED Z

Ted,

I'm not trying to be hard to get along with or anything, just want to satisfy something I've been wondering for awhile. If not in the ACC, then where did Burdick call "Pirates" as part of the T215 designation? Source? Anything?

[tedzan]

I'm not either....I fully agree with your thoughts regarding these Pirates cards. They should have their
own numerical classification.

Let's see what other opinions are ?


TED Z