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05-28-2010, 01:23 AM
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Regarding Rose... I say a resounding YES.
Regarding the others... Bonds - Yes McGwire - No Palmeiro - No Canseco - No Sosa - Yes A-Rod - Yes I really don't care for the steroid-era players, but think some will eventually be considered, given the era they played in. They did cheat, but some would have made the Hall regardless (and I think the passing of time may be kind to the cream of the crop). I picked Bonds, Sosa and A-Rod, as all three will end up with over 600 HRs and I feel they were the best of the bunch that you laid out. Just a gut feeling, and not based on any fact. I don't personally care for any of them... just guessing what may happen by 2020 or so. 
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05-28-2010, 04:26 PM
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Rose, Bonds, A-roid = YES
all others listed = NO Bonds was amazing to watch for a couple years. You had two choices ... intentionally walk him or throw something close to the plate and watch it sail over the fence. He was breaking some of Ruth's slugging % and BB records that would seemingly never be touched. Then all of a sudden, he was released (or a FA) and no one would go near him. I know he was a risk and attracted a lot of unwanted publicity, but wouldn't you think a small market team would pay him $10M so they could attract more fans to the stadium and sell some jerseys? As a side note, I also think manram will be a future HOFer, despite being a known PED user. I don't think big poopi will though. And I'd throw Roger Clemens in there too as being a HOFer. The juiced pitchers faced the juiced hitters. Rob 
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05-30-2010, 02:50 PM
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I am bothered as much or more with Rose's continual lying for years and years about the rather obvious. I would never vote him in but I believe that he will eventually get in after his death.
As for the others, they made a conscious decision to cheat, legal or illegal. If it was legal and not against the rules why not admit it and say sure I did it and there is nothing wrong with it. There is no way to know how much better it made each of them but the point is that we shouldn't have to even wonder. To me it showed a total lack of respect for the game.
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05-30-2010, 04:55 PM
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HRBAKER.. I pose this question to you...
If it, at the time, was still legal, How is that cheating? Unethical , i will give you that, but cheating may be a little harsh! I believe Jose when he said that steroids were almost encouraged early on because it put people into the stands... more taters meant more fans.
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06-01-2010, 07:53 PM
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As I've looooong said about steroids, if it didn't help performance they wouldn't take steroids, and if they didn't thing there was something wrong with taking steroids they would have no problem admitting to it. When a player takes steroids and bends over backwards to deny taking the steroids, that's all you need to know.
Last edited by drc; 06-01-2010 at 07:58 PM.
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06-01-2010, 08:57 PM
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That's was my whole point. It's cheating or come out and say, "I did it. It's not cheating and I would do it again."
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09-28-2010, 06:32 PM
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The roiders* were all committing felonies, MLB rule or not. Tabe * - after 1993 or whenever it was that steroids were made illegal
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09-29-2010, 12:16 AM
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Legal or illegal if they really thought there was nothing wrong with it then they wouldn't hide and deny. Simple enough. And Pete Rose, what a moron, he has only himself to blame, not baseball's leadership or anybody else that is already in the HOF.
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09-29-2010, 11:25 AM
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No for Pete Rose. He is a prick who has never taken full responsibility for what he did. He likes to blame other people and complain about the injustice he has incurred. Tough shit. He is reaping what he sowed. Maybe if he fell on his sword and offered a sincere apology, I would feel differently. But the guy could not make it to his first invitation back to baseball, to take a bow at a Reds game on the anniversary of his record breaking hit because he had a previous commitment at a casino! You can't make this stuff up. NO! NO! NO!
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10-02-2010, 02:54 PM
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the day after he dies, he should be elected to the hall of fame.
RE: steroid users like bonds, mcgwire, palmeiro, sosa. never, ever.
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