Shoeless Joe Jax DIVERSION, why isn't he in any 1911-1917 major T or E-card sets ?

[tedzan]

Clayton

Regarding the Cobb/HINDU mystery in both the T206 and T205 issues, I don't know if the people at the Rochester, NY
plant were prejudiced towards Ty Cobb for being from the South. But, what is factual is....as popular a figure as Cobb
was in the 1909-1911 era.....he is not found with HINDU advertising backs in either of these two popular BB card sets.
So, I'm asking you....don't you find that very puzzling ?
Especially, since Cobb was printed advertising every tobacco brand in the ATC system in that era. Particularly, the Red
Cobb, which is found with 22 different backs. Including LENOX, SWEET CAP, TOLSTOI (they are Factory #30, New York
City). But, it's no mystery, the people up in upstate New York did not want Cobb inserted in their cigarette packs.

If you are at all interested in checking out the HINDU factory, here is the link to my thread about it......
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...imball+factory


Now, regarding your comments about the HINDU ads. in the Fall of 1909....here's another one with the cards of Jordan,
Breitenstein, and Hickman. Now, this comment of yours is incorrect........"So,to me,it sounds like Hindu advertised in a
New Orleans paper promoting players that were from the South"

ATC was promoting their cigarettes in the South with these premiums that included ballplayers that PLAYED on Southern
teams. The majority of the 48 subjects in the SL series were, actually from Northern and Midwest cities.

And, to clarify your......"and if these cards were ready in September of 1909 it certainly removes 1910 as the date for the
350 series.It's possible that only the Southern Series was available at this time,and only with the difficult Hindu Brand."

Of the 48 cards in the SL series, 34 of them were available in the Fall of 1909. Subsequently, in the Spring of 1910, the
other 14 SL cards were printed with OLD MILL and PIEDMONT 350 backs. Scot Reader refers to this latter group of 14 SL's
as the "350-only" Southern Leaguers.







I hope this answers or clarifies some of the questions you asked. If not we'll try once more.


TED Z