State of the Hobby

[quinnsryche]

I have not bought anything from Levi but I will say I make VERY reasonable Best Offers and am continually turned down or come back with ridiculous counter offers. BMW Cards on ebay is a prime example of ridiculously overpriced cards ($250 for a SGC 60 common) and just as ridiculous counter offers ($225-$200).

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by quinnsryche

I have not bought anything from Levi but I will say I make VERY reasonable Best Offers and am continually turned down or come back with ridiculous counter offers. BMW Cards on ebay is a prime example of ridiculously overpriced cards ($250 for a SGC 60 common) and just as ridiculous counter offers ($225-$200).

Unless you are dealing with a true grade rarity, patience will pay dividends.

[JasonL]

it would make sense that if multiple sellers with historically high prices are now trending towards making deals to move inventory, then we are only at the beginning of what may potentially turn into an extended buyer's market.

[glchen]

I don't know about 707 now being reasonable. I've made best offers too that were a little below average selling price (hoping that he would counter at average selling), but he never counter offered. Of course, his prices are twice what others sell at, so I think he still is very over-priced.

I think in general though (w/ my entire 2 months of collecting experience), the market is a little softer, so it's a buying opportunity. There are still certain cards and types that are hot, and still hard to buy at good prices, however.

[Leon]

I have known Levi several years and have not a bad word to say about him.

Maybe it's as simple as he wants to sell more cards so is accepting offers when previously he didn't?

I should also add that Levi and I have always gotten along very well.....I think he's a nice guy.

[FUBAR]

ok the state of the hobby truly has nothing to do with 707, poor guy. I think the state of the hobby, for dealers in general is tough. There is no such thing as paying "retail" anymore. Ebay/ the internet in general has done away with "retail" prices and i dont envy them with what they have to compete against. So if a guy is offering discounts, it is simply what the market is dictating. He hsa to pay the rent/mortgage/ mistress just like the rest of us!

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by FUBAR

He hsa to pay the rent/mortgage/ mistress just like the rest of us!

Speak for yourself; I don't pay rent...

I think we've been in a buyers' market for some time on most all common issues and if some of the stalwart "museum of overpriced card" owners on Ebay are starting to discount their exhibitions we may be in a period of deflating prices for a while on those issues.

I am being very, very patient about buying mainstream cards. If I don't see anything at my (lowball) price I don't bother. I've succeeded in picking up some cards I've always wanted to own (1952 T Robinson, 1957 Mantle, etc.) in presentable condition at very low prices. There are lots of them out there, you just have to be willing to stick to your price points and keep bidding. It's even better in the other sports. I snagged a nice 1959 Topps Jim Brown for $9.99 a few weeks ago.

[MW1]

Originally Posted by quinnsryche

I have not bought anything from Levi but I will say I make VERY reasonable Best Offers and am continually turned down or come back with ridiculous counter offers. BMW Cards on ebay is a prime example of ridiculously overpriced cards ($250 for a SGC 60 common) and just as ridiculous counter offers ($225-$200).

Thank you for your feedback. My counter-offer on the card you have referenced was $150, which you declined.

[Matthew H]

He may have realized that if he is going to bother listing cards on eBay, he may as well try to be competitive. I have never bought from him at a show but love his setup

I have made offers to him on ebay but his counter offers are too high. There are alot of desperation sales on ebay so why buy his cards when with a little patience you can get the same card same grade for alot less? (I mean VERY little patience, It doesn't take long to find a better price on ebay)

Look, this card lasted about ten minutes with this BIN:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Babe-Ruth-1933-G...item230762d84b

I could not buy it at the time but the seller told me that he just really needed the cash right now.

[hunterdutchess]

Any guesses to how much 707 would make if he sold all of his cards at auction starting at .99 ?? Gotta be close to a few million ??

[botn]

Originally Posted by Matthew H

Look, this card lasted about ten minutes with this BIN:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Babe-Ruth-1933-G...item230762d84b

Don't think the Ruth is good.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by botn

Don't think the Ruth is good.

That was my initial thought. Very foggy picture/scan for such an expensive card.

[rdixon1208]

I didn't think the Ruth was good either. Looks like a fake slab

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by rdixon1208

I didn't think the Ruth was good either. Looks like a fake slab

Now that people are saying this I'm thinking that price was too good to be true.
The cert # checks out, Maybe he switched the card.