USED to be REA's big fan ---not any more

[forazzurri2axz]

Leon--I realize I responded to rob in the other thread but feel this is egregious enough to warrant a new post/thread please
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In addition, Mr. Latzko did not mention that he paid for his $63,751 invoice with an unreasonable number of small denomination bank checks purchased with cash over a two week period which were a burden for us to even deposit. One or two or even three checks for whatever reason is fine for payment of any invoice (99%+ pay with one check), but this set a record. This was crazy. In addition, Mr. Latzko has failed to mention that he paid his auction invoice late - and without prearranged terms to do so - and that we did not give him a hard time about this and we waived his late payment fees.

Sincerely,

Robert Lifson

Robert Edward Auctions, LLC
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Dear Rob,

It is one thing to make a mistake in your auction--which your consignor and you BOTH did.
It's one thing to haggle with a customer who spent $60,000 over a few hundred dollars to fix YOUR mistakes--which you did

But it's quite another to come on the NET 54 forum and blatantly LIE and MISREPRESENT what happened--which you are doing

FACTS: I called you right after the auction Rob, explained that I had the $63,000+ IN CASH , preferred not to make a huge deposit in my checking account at one time and offered two ideas
1) I offered TO DRIVE FROM ATLANTA for 12/13 hours with the cash and asked if you could have someone drive 3 hrs to meet me since I couldn't physically do 15 hrs at a stretch. You thanked me for the offer, stated another "local" winning bidder had dropped off cash earlier that day but you only had 3 people and you couldn't "spare one for the day".which I understood

2) I then asked if I could--over a 2 week period-- do Money Orders for approx $5,000 each . YOU SAID YOU WERE FINE WITH THAT!!!! I mentioned I would send them Fed Ex and you GLADLY gave me your street address instead of the PO Box. You certainly didn't say that it was a BURDEN to deposit money orders, you didn't object to the two weeks, and I told you I'd probably send 50% in 1 week. YOU WERE FINE WITH THAT TOO!!! YOU EVEN KNEW ABOUT HOW MANY MONEY ORDERS I WOULD SEND AND THAT WAS OK WITH YOU AS WELL!!

3) I overnighted approx $32,000 a week later (8 money orders)---I followed up the next day to make sure you received it-----Y'all thanked me and I said I would send the balance FEDEX
within the next week.--which I did.(6/7 money orders for the $30,000 balance)

You can do all the $10,000,000 auctions you want, you can have the most beautiful catalogue and consignments in the hobby, and certainly be one of the leader's in the BB card hobby,which makes you perhaps somewhat "believable" to some people. But your misrepresentations of our conversations is despicable to say the least. Why is it all of a sudden a BURDEN to deposit a number of money orders which YOU WERE FINE WITH WHEN WE SPOKE?? Why is it all of a sudden late payment WHEN YOU WERE FINE WITH IT WHEN WE SPOKE??? You are correct that I didn't pre-arrange this but if it was a burden or an objection, you could have mentioned it then---Someone initially offering to drive 25 hours round trip to deliver in cash isn't an unreasonable person!!

I won't bother to address further the issue of compensation of the missing card---I'll repeat that for you to use a % of SMR to justify your attempt to short-change someone in your initial offers is nothing short of being an unethical (albeit rich) businessman.--and you sure as hell can't say that your INITIAL offers which you failed to address here were fair!!!

Peace

[sbfinley]

Way past unnecessary now.

[Leon]

Oy....why do I get to have to deal with these situations? I want a raise!!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Leon no one will object if you double your current salary...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Leon no one will object if you double your current salary...

Thanks a lot Peter. Much appreciated. Dues are doubling too.

[jbsports33]

Leon,

I think we have to move on here, we heard from both sides, lets get back to talking baseball cards

Jimmy

[bobbyw8469]

Agreed....I appreciate hearing both sides of the story. However, it does not affect my dealings with them whatsoever. I will continue to consign and continue to bid on their stuff.....now back to regular bickering.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by forazzurri2axz

Leon--I realize I responded to rob in the other thread but feel this is egregious enough to warrant a new post/thread please
__________________________________________________ ________________

In addition, Mr. Latzko did not mention that he paid for his $63,751 invoice with an unreasonable number of small denomination bank checks purchased with cash over a two week period which were a burden for us to even deposit. One or two or even three checks for whatever reason is fine for payment of any invoice (99%+ pay with one check), but this set a record. This was crazy. In addition, Mr. Latzko has failed to mention that he paid his auction invoice late - and without prearranged terms to do so - and that we did not give him a hard time about this and we waived his late payment fees.

Sincerely,

Robert Lifson

Robert Edward Auctions, LLC
__________________________________________________ _____________
__________________________________________________ _____________

Dear Rob,

It is one thing to make a mistake in your auction--which your consignor and you BOTH did.
It's one thing to haggle with a customer who spent $60,000 over a few hundred dollars to fix YOUR mistakes--which you did

But it's quite another to come on the NET 54 forum and blatantly LIE and MISREPRESENT what happened--which you are doing

FACTS: I called you right after the auction Rob, explained that I had the $63,000+ IN CASH , preferred not to make a huge deposit in my checking account at one time and offered two ideas
1) I offered TO DRIVE FROM ATLANTA for 12/13 hours with the cash and asked if you could have someone drive 3 hrs to meet me since I couldn't physically do 15 hrs at a stretch. You thanked me for the offer, stated another "local" winning bidder had dropped off cash earlier that day but you only had 3 people and you couldn't "spare one for the day".which I understood

2) I then asked if I could--over a 2 week period-- do Money Orders for approx $5,000 each . YOU SAID YOU WERE FINE WITH THAT!!!! I mentioned I would send them Fed Ex and you GLADLY gave me your street address instead of the PO Box. You certainly didn't say that it was a BURDEN to deposit money orders, you didn't object to the two weeks, and I told you I'd probably send 50% in 1 week. YOU WERE FINE WITH THAT TOO!!! YOU EVEN KNEW ABOUT HOW MANY MONEY ORDERS I WOULD SEND AND THAT WAS OK WITH YOU AS WELL!!

3) I overnighted approx $32,000 a week later (8 money orders)---I followed up the next day to make sure you received it-----Y'all thanked me and I said I would send the balance FEDEX
within the next week.--which I did.(6/7 money orders for the $30,000 balance)

You can do all the $10,000,000 auctions you want, you can have the most beautiful catalogue and consignments in the hobby, and certainly be one of the leader's in the BB card hobby,which makes you perhaps somewhat "believable" to some people. But your misrepresentations of our conversations is despicable to say the least. Why is it all of a sudden a BURDEN to deposit a number of money orders which YOU WERE FINE WITH WHEN WE SPOKE?? Why is it all of a sudden late payment WHEN YOU WERE FINE WITH IT WHEN WE SPOKE??? You are correct that I didn't pre-arrange this but if it was a burden or an objection, you could have mentioned it then---Someone initially offering to drive 25 hours round trip to deliver in cash isn't an unreasonable person!!

I won't bother to address further the issue of compensation of the missing card---I'll repeat that for you to use a % of SMR to justify your attempt to short-change someone in your initial offers is nothing short of being an unethical (albeit rich) businessman.--and you sure as hell can't say that your INITIAL offers which you failed to address here were fair!!!

Peace

It has been requested that I lock this thread. I have a hard time doing that with respect to the way the board has always been run. However, it is being contemplated. The problem is that if it gets locked then that basically doesn't let anyone else comment and I am not sure that is the fair way to run the board? Suggestions? Opinions? (btw, I have to go to a small party in about 30 minutes so this might have to wait till this evening, regardless of the decision) regards

[botn]

No point locking this one unless you lock the other one too.

[barrysloate]

Can we ask who requested it? That said, we really only need one thread at most discussing this matter.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by Leon

btw, I have to go to a small party in about 30 minutes so this might have to wait till this evening

I thought parties went until the break of dawn when Leon was involved.

[ksabet]

I have been a buyer and a seller to REA and usually do not say much on the board as I am more of a lurker, but this thread is ridiculous. If you really read the email that Rob sent I believe he humored this guy as long as he could before the little things go a bit out of hand.

I have had nothing but a red carpet laid out for me every time I call the office and I don't do a ton of buying or selling, just enough to consider myself a collector.

It seems that you were given about a dozen options from them for rectification and none were suitable. Eventually the customer ceases to be right.

Let it go man life is too short.

[barrysloate]

If we agree that we don't need two threads on the same subject, then this one should be shut down. But do you leave the other one open?

I feel this discussion has been exhausted on both threads, but it's not really my call.

[calvindog]

For a number of fairly obvious reasons this thread should be deleted (the other one as well). And it should be done immediately.

[Ease]

Originally Posted by calvindog

For a number of fairly obvious reasons this thread should be deleted (the other one as well). And it should be done immediately.

not arguing or trying to be a jerk here, but why should both threads be deleted? I agree this one is basically a double (bash) post and should be deleted but why the other?

[botn]

Originally Posted by calvindog

For a number of fairly obvious reasons this thread should be deleted (the other one as well). And it should be done immediately.

Sure it is too late Jeff. And don't we already have a Fed or two checking us out?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by botn

Sure it is too late Jeff. And don't we already have a Fed or two checking us out?

Nah they are too busy busting shill bidding rings.