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Old 07-06-2010, 11:54 AM
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Ted Simmons in, Bill Mazeroski out. Simmons is a victim of what media markets he played in.
Whenever someone asks me who the most underrated player of all time was, I say Ted Simmons. Compare his stats with Gary Carters and tell me Carter was better.
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:06 PM
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Whenever someone asks me who the most underrated player of all time was, I say Ted Simmons. Compare his stats with Gary Carters and tell me Carter was better.
I agree 100%. I can't kick Carter out but Simmons is getting the shaft.
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Old 07-06-2010, 01:51 PM
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Mazz out..
Ron Santo in.. greatest Cub ever.
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Old 07-06-2010, 07:18 PM
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Whenever someone asks me who the most underrated player of all time was, I say Ted Simmons. Compare his stats with Gary Carters and tell me Carter was better.

I'm with you on Simmons. I don't think he even got past the first year of eligibility.

I wouldn't kick Carter out either.

I had been going back and forth the last couple days with myself. Put Simmons in and kick out another catcher.

Fact is............there's no catcher in the Hall I'd kick out, regardless of Offensive stats. I might even consider putting somebody like Bob Boone in the HOF.

The absolute toughest position in baseball (by a mile) is woefully under-represented in the HOF..........and it is mostly because it's an offensively driven honor.

A valuable catcher who can make a pitching staff better, call a solid game behind the plate, block balls, throw runners out.........or just keep them on firmly planted on first base (like I-Rod did for many years of his career, though he may not have been the best handler of pitchers)............may be the most valuable guy on the team, regardless of the stats they put up. It's the reason why so many Catchers eventually become Managers after their careers are over.
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I really hope Jorge Posada is voted in when his time comes. After the Pudge steroid disaster he is in my opinion far and away the best catcher or his day.
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I really hope Jorge Posada is voted in when his time comes. After the Pudge steroid disaster he is in my opinion far and away the best catcher or his day.
I wouldn't say Posada was better than Mike Piazza, especially at the plate.
Piazza may have been the best hitting catcher ever, hit for both power and average. Not great behind the plate, but Posada isn't either.
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Old 07-06-2010, 10:03 PM
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I totally forgot about Piazza. You're right about that.
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Drysdale and Pop Haines out. Blyleven and Jack Morris in.
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