Very bummed out....what are my options?

[rhettyeakley]

Wow, note to self never deal with "hunterduchess," you would really destroy all auctions and BIN from a seller as retaliation in this case!?! The seller may be reluctant to refund thinking he has done what he was supposed to, I don't really see this case screaming "Crook"!

Tough decision here because someone is gonna get the shaft, either Dan or the seller. As a seller on ebay this stinks pretty bad as for a $100-200 item if I actually charge the cost of shipping plus D/C plus full insurance I will get crappy feedback for having too high of shipping fees but if I send with just shipping and D/C I'll get the shaft if a buyer "never gets the item"

*when I state "never gets the item" above I'm not implying anything about Dan as he is just about as trustworthy a guy as I have ever dealt with I'm just simply referring to the ridiculousness that is ebay in general.

-Rhett

[sreader3]

Sorry this happened to you.

Legalities are basically irrelevant here because the item is worth much less than the legal fees.

Morality says to me we have an honest buyer, an honest seller and a third party scumbag. So the loss should be split 50/50 between the buyer and seller. The scumbag should be pursued and go to prison for a long time if caught.

[hunterdutchess]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Wow, note to self never deal with "hunterduchess," you would really destroy all auctions and BIN from a seller as retaliation in this case!?! The seller may be reluctant to refund thinking he has done what he was supposed to, I don't really see this case screaming "Crook"!

Tough decision here because someone is gonna get the shaft, either Dan or the seller. As a seller on ebay this stinks pretty bad as for a $100-200 item if I actually charge the cost of shipping plus D/C plus full insurance I will get crappy feedback for having too high of shipping fees but if I send with just shipping and D/C I'll get the shaft if a buyer "never gets the item"

*when I state "never gets the item" above I'm not implying anything about Dan as he is just about as trustworthy a guy as I have ever dealt with I'm just simply referring to the ridiculousness that is ebay in general.

-Rhett

No I would not, I posted on the wrong thread. Sorry! I thought this was the guy who sold a card then refunded the buyer and then found out he still has the card.

[sbfinley]

I have seen many threads similar to this in the recent past, and in just the past month I have had two packages not arrive. It seems like getting a package in the mail is akin to a box of chocolates. "You never know what your going to get." Thanks Forrest.

Sometimes it will be in the box.
Sometimes it will be on the doorstep.
Sometimes UPS will knock and by the time I get to the door it is lying there and the carrier is making a dead sprint to his van.
Sometimes the UPS guy will leave a note saying he'll come back Thursday at 3:47.
Sometimes it says do not bend and it's rolled in my box.
Sometimes they leave it in the complex office.
Sometimes I have to pick it up at the Post Office.
Sometimes my neighbor gets it and brings it to me.
Sometimes the DC number says it made it to me and then was sent back to the sender. They of course never get it back.
Sometimes I just have to write it up as a loss.

Sometimes I wonder.... Do people with PO boxes have to deal with this? (Serious Question) Because that is what I am currently leaning towards.

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

Sometimes I wonder.... Do people with PO boxes have to deal with this? (Serious Question) Because that is what I am currently leaning towards.

Granted, the expense is $10-$15 a month (depending on where you live), and you shouldn't have to do it if the USPS and delivery companies would do their jobs correctly, but I highly recommend having a box at a UPS store. I've never had a problem ***knocking on wood*** since I got one two-plus years ago, and I never have to worry about missing the postal carrier or FedEx guy or having something left on the porch or a neighbor's house.

Do I like paying $160 a year for one? No.

Do I think it's worth doing? Obviously.

(I suppose a post-office box would be close to the same thing, but I just feel that the quicker my package is out of the USPS' hands, the better. That's why I like having it delivered to a third party.)

[leftygrove10]

Dan:

I have had similar cases before, where the item was shown as "delivered", but it was not delivered to me. Eventually, the item showed up on my front porch between my screen door and main door after the regular mail was delivered. This indicated to me that the package had originally been delivered to the wrong address and the people who received the package in error delivered it to me themselves. If the package was delivered in error to someone else, then they put it back in the mailbox and the package went back to the post office for re-processing, then you're looking at several extra days before you see the package.

I would recommend waiting at least two or three weeks before you take any action on this package. I know it's hard to be patient, but it is possible that someone else has your package by accident. They could be on vacation and not realize that they have your package until they return from vacation.

Brad

[prewarsports]

The best $40 I ever spent was getting a PO Box for my ebay/auction stuff. I go to the Post Office or drive by it everyday (small town) and I buy my Postal Workers a small gift every Christmas and those ladies treat everything I mail or receive like it was made of gold as a result. I have not had a single problem since I did this.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by leftygrove10

Dan:

I have had similar cases before, where the item was shown as "delivered", but it was not delivered to me. Eventually, the item showed up on my front porch between my screen door and main door after the regular mail was delivered. This indicated to me that the package had originally been delivered to the wrong address and the people who received the package in error delivered it to me themselves. If the package was delivered in error to someone else, then they put it back in the mailbox and the package went back to the post office for re-processing, then you're looking at several extra days before you see the package.

I would recommend waiting at least two or three weeks before you take any action on this package. I know it's hard to be patient, but it is possible that someone else has your package by accident. They could be on vacation and not realize that they have your package until they return from vacation.

Brad

I already took action, but if the scenario you describe is what happened and it eventually shows up I'll take all the necessary steps to rectify the situation. I hope your scenario is what happened and it eventually shows up...I doubt I'll see another one of these. It was like a perfect storm of wrongness...The package was already way late considering it only had to travel 50 miles to get to me, I wasn't home waiting for the mail, and my regular carrier was not working (my regular carrier is awesome and would have never left a package on my porch).

[egbeachley]

The seller has the responsibility to get the package to the buyer. All indications are that he did so. I'm not sure why everyone is so quick to jump on the seller.

It was likely stolen. The item should be reported as such and when it shows up you have legal right to it.