1909-11 T206 Honus Wagner vs. 1911-16 Kotton Honus Wagner: Who Has More?

[uffda51]

Mr. rman, if I may be so informal, it isn't often I have something you don't. My will has been revised per our conversation, with the caveat that my attorney may substitute something of equal or lesser value. You might wind up with 500,000 1982 Donruss commons or the Sovereign-back T206 Wagner which belonged to my grandfather . . .

[rman444]

Originally Posted by uffda51

Mr. rman, if I may be so informal, it isn't often I have something you don't. My will has been revised per our conversation, with the caveat that my attorney may substitute something of equal or lesser value. You might wind up with 500,000 1982 Donruss commons or the Sovereign-back T206 Wagner which belonged to my grandfather . . .

Bruce,

Your Sovereign T206 Wagner would display nicely next the the Drum T206 Wagner that I received from my grandfather. As for the half mil 1982 Donruss commons, if you could sort them in numerical order, I would gladly accept those as well.

[Leon]

I just received the Kotton tobacco pouch. It's sort of interesting that it says, at the top of it, "Not In the Trust"

As stated before, the type 2 Kotton cards, as can be seen, advertise tobacco, and this pouch, I believe, could have held a card. It says made by union labor on the pouch, as well as has Factory 11, Dist. of LA.....and looks to be from the time period...Here is a scan of the top of the pouch and another of the pouch too. The back of the pouch is completely blank, which is sort of unusual. It is full of tobacco but alas no card. It does look like it's been opened before. regards

[bijoem]

great pouch Leon.

And great cards and info throughout this thread!

[rman444]

Leon -

Glad it arrived safely. Can you share the details of your find?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rman444

Leon -

Glad it arrived safely. Can you share the details of your find?

Hey Richard
I wish I could claim that I found it but I didn't. Another board member won it recently in an auction. Jon Canfield knew about it too. I have bought quite a few packs from the member that won it so he knew I would have an interest in it. He asked if I would like to buy it? I had to think about it, for almost a second . Then we just had to haggle on value/price. It wasn't cheap but he gave me a pretty good deal compared to it's scarcity and what other packs go for, with similar qualities. I just didn't care to talk too much about it before, as I didn't have it in hand and didn't want to jinx myself. You know how that goes. Anywho, we can probably cross one off of the list for cards with packs/pouches associated with them. That being said this doesn't have a stamp at all but it's my understanding that some packs during this time period didn't have them. It might have to do with the Trust, but I am not sure. Maybe Jon will chime in.....and also, I know there is a chance this might not be the exact year of the card but I do think it is close, if not spot on. regards

[DixieBaseball]

Leon- Incredible find and great thread of some real toughies. Thanks for sharing ! Those New Orleans brand tobacco packs and cards are the best !

Does anyone (Richard) know how close Factory 3, 4 / 11 were to each other in New Orleans ? ( I don't recall ever seeing an address)

[Leon]

Probably my favorite T216... I have seen a few of these Cobbs, of paper thin variety, but most have been quite off condition. I think Toby and I went head to head for this one on ebay some time ago. regards.....