PSA 52 Mantle w/ frosted edges on ebay

[Doug]

I saw this card a few days ago. I can't believe the people that bid on these things. This looks so fake it's not even close. If I was going to drop $25k on a card I think I'd have a clue of what I was buying.

[GoSoxBoSox]

Most of the bids are probably shills from his friends/partners in crime. Or his other eBay accounts.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by GoSoxBoSox

Most of the bids are probably shills from his friends/partners in crime. Or his other eBay accounts.

Probably. The bidder with the 95 feedback has bid on the card 4 times and has "100% bid activity with this seller" in the past 30 days. It would be nice if eBay paid more attention to these things instead of relying on users to report everything, but I guess they aren't worried about people getting scammed as long as the seller pays his eBay and PayPal fees.

[T205]

wow, at least line up the numbers on the label.

and with the money he has he can't afford a scanner?

[Doug]

Originally Posted by T205

wow, at least line up the numbers on the label.

and with the money he has he can't afford a scanner?

Maybe he can't afford a scanner and that's why he is trying to sell a $25k fake card. That and a large clear scan would make it look more fake than it already does.

[hunterdutchess]

I think ebay should let us see the people who are bidding on these scammers items so we cand send them a message and let them know whats going on. Also I wonder why the reserve? I would think that if it's a fake he would make $ if it sold for any amount over $10.

[ctownboy]

hunter,

My guess is having the reserve adds an element of "realness" to the card.

How much do real PSA 7 Mantles sell for? Whatever it is, just imagine if this card only had a bid of $2,000 dollars and no reserve. People would look at that and think something fishy was going on. However, if the seller puts a reserve on the card and shill bids it up to $25,000, it looks more "real" to unsuspecting bidders.

This way, when the auction is over and the card does not meet the reserve, the seller can go back to whatever real bidder is out there and tell them a story about the high bidder not wanting the card after all and offering it for his lower (real) bid. This way, the seller STILL makes a buttload of money off a fake card.

David

[tbob]

Originally Posted by hunterdutchess

I think ebay should let us see the people who are bidding on these scammers items so we cand send them a message and let them know whats going on. Also I wonder why the reserve? I would think that if it's a fake he would make $ if it sold for any amount over $10.

+1

[Delray Vintage]

The cert number is legit- I checked with psa database

[Doug]

Originally Posted by 19th century

The cert number is legit- I checked with psa database

The label is fake. All the person that made it had to do is find a scan of a legit PSA 7 Mantle and copy the cert number so if anyone checks their "card" it will match up with a PSA 7 '52 Mantle on the PSA site.

[Delray Vintage]

They just took the card down

[joeadcock]

Just got in on this thread.

Missed the listing, it's been removed.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by 19th century

They just took the card down

I guess eBay believed me after all. Hopefully the guy doesn't just keep relisting it everytime they take it down.