1919 Reds Pennant

[rhettyeakley]

Regardless of whether it was a well done fake or not it doesn't change the fact that it is still fake. I don't doubt that you have vintage sack-cloth (or something like that) that these were made on, but the thing that looks really bogus to me is the actual stencilling of the letters and stars. The letters and stars look "worn" because there are portions of each letter that aren't as dark as the rest BUT it is not honest wear to ink that was applied to the surface 90 years ago. If you look at the letters most of the "wear" is on the inner portion or "middle of each letter (or star) which is just WAY too uniform of a wear pattern. In real life there would be areas of the pennant that exhibited more wear than others NOT areas of wear to each and every letter and star uniformly across the entire piece. Looks like way too much effort was put in to make the "antiqued" look for it to be honest wear. As soon as I saw the piece and took a step or two back it was painfully obvious this was done for one of two reasons...1.) to deceive, or 2.) to make a cool "period looking" piece that would display nicely (in other words a modern "craft".) Bottomline it just doesn't "look right", the other pennants are just icing on the cake. Get your money back and never look back!

PS--Barry thanks for noticing my "red flag" comment above, I couldn't help myself!

[sporteq]

WOW...some one got RIPPED OFF... I believe 100% it's a fake!! Nothing about the pennant looks vintage. Stay away from this type/style of pennant!!!

Have fun,
aL

[mjkm90]

Don't be pulled in by the fact that experienced baseball collectors or even pennant collectors bid on this piece.

Many vintage baseball collectors have specialties as you know. A person may be an advanced collector of cards, photos, or bats, but know beans about pennants, gloves, and jerseys. Unless they handle and study a particular niche over time, mistakes can be made. Just think about how many Black Sox collectors there are who simply search for anything 1919 Reds and Sox. Any of them would want this piece and 90% may not have a single pennant in thier collection.

Regarding this pennant specifically...NOBODY has experience because these are all one of a kind. Those who bid were pulled in by the allure and look of this pennant, but wishing it real doesn't make it so.

If it was $50 I might keep it just to hang on the wall, but never for a significant sum. I would get a sick feeling in my gut every time I walked past this piece if I paid serious $ for it. Run away and forget it. You will not be sorry you avoided this mistake. You can purchase an amazing and 100% genuine pennant for significantly less than this and enjoy it forever.

[barrysloate]

Even if there was a slight possibility it's vintage, and I don't believe it is, how could you enjoy owning it? It's still $3000, and every time you look at it there will be that little voice asking if you in fact made a giant mistake. It's very easy to acquire period materials and thread, and it wouldn't be very hard to duplicate it if you had a little experience working with fabric. Given it is unlikely to be real, how could you not return? It's not worth the risk.

[Shoeless Moe]

The interesting thing will be to see when the seller re-lists. Were one of the 4 other bidders not a member of this forum, if so it's still going to go high.

Seller could still get anywhere from 1500 to 3 grand if # 2 bidder is not a member.

[gratefuldog3]

If the pennant still remains questionable at the end of all this, I can tell you I really do not think the seller would even consider relisting the item. He's as upset with the ordeal as I am,( the buyer ), perhaps more if at all possible! Scott

[7nohitter]

Yup, the seller, based on the description in the original auction, seems to be on the up and up....never mind the fact that the buyer stated the seller has ALREDY refunded him!