Philly Show this weekend....see you there ?

judsonhamlin · #1 09-25-2010, 11:28 AM

I will affirm what Mike just posted about Friday night. The crowds were smaller, the dealers fewer and the prices just as unrealistic as predicted. Pre-war cards, except for a few dealers, were overgraded and overpriced. One dealer had a SGC 50 common at 100.00 and a SGC 30 Chance for 375. Why? That is, at most, 150.00 worth of cards...
Many dealers I had hoped to see didn't set up, including Bill Henderson, whose name was on the program, but whose booth was empty.
I did pick up some cards, but not really enough to justify the 1 1/2 drive in December. It may be too early to write this show's obituary, but its long-term prospects are poor at best.

e107collector · #2 09-25-2010, 05:23 PM

I just arrived home from the show today, and I had a great time. The crowd wasn't like it was at Fort Washignton, but by mid-day, there was a good number.

I enjoyed being able to meet a few fellow board members, and put a face with their name. I got a few cards slabbed by SGC, and it was a great day in PA for the ride down the turnpike.

There was some great material on display for upcoming auctions. Mile High and Legendary had some nice cards. There was also some dealers/auction houses that had a lot of hgigh end cards that weren't on display, but rather under the table, so to speak.

There was a new auction house called Paragon Auctions, that had some great cards on display, especially a Boston Garter color Mathewson.

I will be back there in December 2010.

Tony

morgan118 · #3 09-25-2010, 06:18 PM

Definitely more traffic on Saturday and made a few more purchases, thank God. I fly into this show so it is a decent expense commitment for me. I purchased a very nice 1948 Leaf Boxing Abe Attell from Ted Z., and 2 killer Redman Tobacco Cards- a 1952 raw Willie Mays for $225.00 from Louis Bollman and a 1954 SGC 88 Jim Gilliam for $160.00 which looks undergraded from Wayne Varner.

All in all still a good show but I hope the promoters cut the cost back somewhat to try to keep this alive. At 1:00pm I asked one dealer, E & R Galleries, how he was doing and he said he had sold $60.00 total for the day thus far ! Those are flea market numbers. Pretty tough to make money like that. Another disturbing situation was the amount of thefts being reported from dealers' booths on both Friday night and Saturday. Also not good for continued dealer support.

There are so few shows like Philly around anymore I hope everything that can be done to keep this one going is implemented. It would be a shame for it to go the way of Sportsfest in Chicago.

Rich Klein · #4 09-26-2010, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by judsonhamlin

Many dealers I had hoped to see didn't set up, including Bill Henderson, whose name was on the program, but whose booth was empty.

Bill told me at the National that he was on the verge of moving to Florida; he had closed his Beckett "store" and was basically stepping back and was trying to sell most of his inventory. I wonder if he completed his missions

Rich

judsonhamlin · #5 09-26-2010, 08:06 AM

I checked Bill's eBay/Beckett sites and that makes sense. Ebay only had a few listings and Beckett is closed.

bcbgcbrcb · #6 09-26-2010, 09:04 AM

I was at the show yesterday and was able to accomplish what I set out to do plus make a nice purchase that I never expected. I consigned a lot to Bill Goodwin's next auction, submitted a bunch of photos to BGS for grading and picked up the following postcard thanks to Toby which pictures HOF'ers, Red Faber & Eddie Collins (possibly more but have not been able to identify everybody yet):

Leon · #7 09-26-2010, 10:40 AM

This isn't to bash anyone or anything but 2 yrs ago at the National, Scott and I asked about a table at this show for the following year (last year). We were told they were probably all booked so we walked away. When I went to that very show last year there were about 1/3 of the tables empty. I went up to the promoters booth and asked about what happened. I was told they made a mistake but they would call and let me know about the next show. No call, of course. So, Scott and I will eventually find a show that is more interested in us setting up at. Maybe this is one of their problems? I honestly have no idea what they were thinking either time I asked but maybe it was the "well, we only have limited space" so they could make like it's really active?

I did have a great time the 1 time I went to Philly when I stayed with Teddy Z. I saw a lot of friends at the show too. Unfortunately, I think they need to find employees more interested in doing their job (promoting) than whatever they are doing. Again, just my take....

Peter_Spaeth · #8 09-26-2010, 11:08 AM

Mebbe they don't want Texans.... understandable if that is the case ....

Leon · #9 09-26-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Mebbe they don't want Texans.... understandable if that is the case ....

Hey, our money is green!!

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