Baseball Documentary

tbob · #1 09-29-2010, 12:11 AM

I thought 10th Inning Part 1 was good and look forward to the 2nd Part tomorrow. I realize that steroids was a huge issue in the 90's and in to the 21st century but to have almost 3/4 of the first show devoted to Sammy, Mark and Barry was a little overkill when so many other things happened in the 90's. Of course Joe Torre and the Yankees and the Braves had long features. Not a word about the Twins '91 series (there wasn't a mention of the '87 Series in the last episode either) which was disappointing as that was such a great series (and I am a Twins fan). There was a little bit on Ken Griffey Jr. and a nice segment on the strike and Ripken. Donald Fehr was trashed (he deserved it) and so were the owners (they deserved it too) but Selig has emerged unscathed so far (disappointing).

Anthony S. · #2 09-29-2010, 01:00 AM

Donald Fehr still looks like he chugs a bottle of ipecac moments before every TV interview. I haven't missed that dour visage.

bh3443 · #3 09-29-2010, 06:20 AM

I watched it twice so far and enjoyed it so much.

Mark · #4 09-29-2010, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tbob

I thought 10th Inning Part 1 was good and look forward to the 2nd Part tomorrow. I realize that steroids was a huge issue in the 90's and in to the 21st century but to have almost 3/4 of the first show devoted to Sammy, Mark and Barry was a little overkill when so many other things happened in the 90's. Of course Joe Torre and the Yankees and the Braves had long features. Not a word about the Twins '91 series (there wasn't a mention of the '87 Series in the last episode either) which was disappointing as that was such a great series (and I am a Twins fan). There was a little bit on Ken Griffey Jr. and a nice segment on the strike and Ripken. Donald Fehr was trashed (he deserved it) and so were the owners (they deserved it too) but Selig has emerged unscathed so far (disappointing).

I don't know what's coming tonight, but the strike and the steroids were the most dramatic and traumatic events of the last 2 decades. I think they needed to be explored. I suspect that part 2 will present some brighter spots, such as the growing popularity of the game around the world, the Red Sox revival, and the new talent. But then Burns still has more to present about the Barry saga and the Congressional hearings in part 2.

Hot Springs Bathers · #5 09-29-2010, 10:25 AM

It is my understanding that last night's segment would go deep into the problems that baseball experienced and that the bulk of tonight's conclusion would focus on the best parts of the game.

I read that Burns wanted to show that through all the warts and problems baseball is still a great game and that it still reflects the american spirit.

I also read that Donald Fehr would be representing the NHL players in the future! The perfect scenario would be Bud Selig moving to another league though I would not wish that on the NHL. Perhaps the Italian soccer league.

barrysloate · #6 09-29-2010, 11:10 AM

How about the Arab League?

tbob · #7 09-29-2010, 02:21 PM

Or the League of Super Villians?
Not one word about Selig's attempts to contract the Minnesota Twins. Not a word about his role in mishandling the whole steroids/andro affair (although Faye Vincent was mentioned) or his marvelous handling of the player strike or that great All-Star game debacle. The guy is truly teflon in Burns' eyes, at least so far.
Did anyone else feel that the Latin/Hispanic players segment was very hastily thrown together? If you knew nothing about baseball, you would assume Roberto Clemente was the first Latin player in the history of major league baseball.
Still, it was enjoyable. I have never seen so many cameo shots of anyone without mentioning the guy's name (Don Zimmer). I assume there will be a long feature on 9-11 and the Yankees to open tonight's program.

P.S. Anyone else think that trashing Clinton over Monica Lewinsky in a baseball documentary seemed a bit strange????

Anthony S. · #8 09-29-2010, 02:28 PM

I found the following anecdote on another website, TBob:

I had the chance to hear Ken Burns speak at Messiah College in Pennsylvania a few years ago. He related this anecdote.

Burns said he was sitting in a restaurant, when a man came up to him and asked, "Excuse me. Are you Ken Burns?"

Burns replied that he was.

The man said, "Well, I'm from Minnesota - and I hate you."

Burns replied, "I know - Harmon Killebrew."

For Burns had realized, to his great chagrin, but much too late to make changes, that he had produced a nine-part epic documentary history of baseball, and not once in the whole documentary had the name of the Twins' great slugger been mentioned.

Well, for Twins' fans' sake, I hope he manages to work Harmon's name into the "Tenth Inning" somehow or other.

Jim VB · #9 09-29-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony S.

I found the following anecdote on another website, TBob:

I had the chance to hear Ken Burns speak at Messiah College in Pennsylvania a few years ago. He related this anecdote.

Burns said he was sitting in a restaurant, when a man came up to him and asked, "Excuse me. Are you Ken Burns?"

Burns replied that he was.

The man said, "Well, I'm from Minnesota - and I hate you."

Burns replied, "I know - Harmon Killebrew."

For Burns had realized, to his great chagrin, but much too late to make changes, that he had produced a nine-part epic documentary history of baseball, and not once in the whole documentary had the name of the Twins' great slugger been mentioned.

Well, for Twins' fans' sake, I hope he manages to work Harmon's name into the "Tenth Inning" somehow or other.

Personally, I think he should only mention hitters with a career BA over .260., but that's just my opinion.

Tabe · #10 09-29-2010, 06:35 PM

I have no problem with Harmon Killebrew being left out - though he should have been mentioned. Ken Burns also left out the 1967 Detroit riots, Denny McLain's 31 wins in 1968, and the entire 1968 World Series - all of which should have been at least MENTIONED.

Tabe

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